Betting percentages

What percentage is dissemination meant to bet to by the time they jump ? Was 131% while horses loading and 129% when they jumped Clairwood race 2.

Yawn Yawn Yawn,we have had this for the last 20 years!!! Please can you understand English,if the price is 2/1 and you get offered 22/10 that is called a streeeeaaach which takes out an extra 10% of the bookmakers profit,so you need to understand that the market is fluid.Go to the UK and ask for 22/10 off 2/1 and you will be told in no uncertain terms to fxxk off back to south africa.

Good reply Bob
I did comment on % at one stage but they are not realistic ( I was a cream cookie for 2 years )
You can only "field up and have a proper spread on big races "
So in fact % become irrelevant
Interbet off prices as a good as betfair
Who cares if u have a punt that u think is value ( hate that word ) with your bookie than what is the prob
Or use the tote and get a lucky dip positive or negative

Good punting

Liquidity is a must for proper percentages

bobsmith the saviour the one who bad mouth the tote please answer for me the following question. what limits if any do you have and how do these get set

sorry these massive percentages you offer with the spread what will you lay off these

another big mouth bookie who is no prepare to put hes money where hes mouth is. i say france and hong kong the perfect example of why the parasite that is the book maker is no better than tote. for me is no argument is better for every one the bookie go

Arry I sumatime no understand u but u come to hangover and we give u full flat chicken 900 grams for R70 u talk to the Greek (Zoro)
He also no understand %

But he nows good price with bookie over phone he not no computer

The bookmakers have commited to callover prices being 125% racetime. I have confirmed that.
Lets hope they stick to that commitment (and do not just drift in the last 30 seconds.)
Bobsmith - shouldn't you bookmakers stick to a commitment that has been made to the public ??
Am I wrong to question a promise that isn't being kept ?
Every percentage over is costing a punter somewhere money.

bobsmith Wrote:

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> Yawn Yawn Yawn,we have had this for the last 20
> years!!! Please can you understand English,if the
> price is 2/1 and you get offered 22/10 that is
> called a streeeeaaach which takes out an extra 10%
> of the bookmakers profit,so you need to understand
> that the market is fluid.Go to the UK and ask for
> 22/10 off 2/1 and you will be told in no uncertain
> terms to fxxk off back to south africa.


Before we get too bored and talk down to people,lets point out a few facts :
a)Most bookmakers do not have a clue what the prices should be or how to price up.......that's why they are set by a couple of people for the whole country.
b)If a horse is priced up at,say 3/1 (regarded as market price) ...3 claims and the price is now 2/1 and 99% of bookmakers haven't laid a cent yet.When those bookmakers offer 22/10 they are not stretching anything other than the imagination
c) SA bookmakers,by their own admission,when they were challenged on percentages,regard their ruling prices as stretches.......when they lay off,double stretches are common.(Treble stretches often available)
d) I agree with Scotia however that most punters are ,for all practical purposes ,unaffected by percentages..........if you like the price have a bet!

The point is,lets not pretend the local industry is generally operated like some kind of science................the majority of the operaters do it on "copy and paste" basis

Rob Faux wrote :
> d) I agree with Scotia however that most punters
> are ,for all practical purposes ,unaffected by
> percentages..........if you like the price have a
> bet!

To say they are unnafected by percentages is naive. If percentages are too tight it is costing the punters extra stake money. So they are severely affected in the long run, even if they are oblivious to it.

ruffian Wrote:

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> Rob Faux wrote :
> > d) I agree with Scotia however that most
> punters
> > are ,for all practical purposes ,unaffected by
> > percentages..........if you like the price have
> a
> > bet!
>
> To say they are unnafected by percentages is
> naive. If percentages are too tight it is costing
> the punters extra stake money. So they are
> severely affected in the long run, even if they
> are oblivious to it.


Can I ask......before you decide whether to back a horse ,do you; a) know the value threshold of the horse you want to back and or do you just calculate the overall percentage?
Unless you are backing half the field of course!

I'll remain naïve thanks!.........()

Getting the right price is EVERYTHING. I wasn't calling you naive, just your statement.
Do you not agree that getting the best price possible is important ?