Att. Craig: FlyFirstClass and Other outraged puunters

Tommy_Hotspur Wrote:

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> Whoever said Anton Marcus is even party to blame
> for what happened because he followed the rules
> must have had money on My Sanctuary and vented
> their anger at a third party......
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> Are you kidding me????
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> AM is by FAR the most professional jockey in South
> Africa. He would NEVER do anything to screw anyone
> out of a dime......
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> I feel sorry for the punters as they got screwed,
> they got screwed by a flawed rule and by even more
> flawed decision making. Blaming even the smallest
> part of this on Anton is the silliest thing I have
> ever heard in my young life.
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> Come now people, think with your heads not your
> pockets.
>
> Good job Busy! nice write up dude.

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Totally agree Tommy & Craig - for the punters to call for Marcus's head on this instance is absurd, how can you blame the jock for the false start not being called, you play the game until you hear the whistle / Siren, if Marcus and all others pulled up there mounts and let MS "catch up" the other horses would then be at a disadvantage as MS would be up a gear to all the others, nobody can be blamed other than officials in this instance...

Best thing to do would of been a re-run on the 24th with races 7-9!
And hopefully those new stalls arrive before then

you can not blame the jockey, the trainer, the owner.

the question i have is why was the false start declare in the queens plate this year????

JustinV Wrote:

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> haha..people blaming marcus...get real..totally
> idiotic

Totally agree

JustinV Wrote:

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> haha..people blaming marcus...get real..totally
> idiotic


ela justin i hear you get the maine chance soon, well done

Flash Harry Wrote:

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> you can not blame the jockey, the trainer, the
> owner.
>
> the question i have is why was the false start
> declare in the queens plate this year????


FH Same reason here Marcus Jooste

bad company Wrote:

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> > > I blame Craig Peters,......
> > only one gate never
> > > open but craig started confusing the riders
> by
> > > shouting there could be a false start
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> > Lol, best April fools post ever. Like the
> classic
> > radio chirp " I can see the spaghetti in the
> > fields swaying in the breeze"
> > And to do it early in March...brilliant!
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> I really don't value your opinion on this site
> anyway

How can you blame Craig Peters? The riders can only hear him on the replay so it's your opinion that lacks value, and what you value has none.

davebu Wrote:

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> Flash Harry Wrote:
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> > you can not blame the jockey, the trainer, the
> > owner.
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> > the question i have is why was the false start
> > declare in the queens plate this year????
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> FH Same reason here Marcus Jooste

The QP false start was called correctly - it was a false start. The Clairwood runners should have been called back as it was clearly a false start. The Durban starters screwed up. Nothing to do with the owner, that's just paranoia to suggest, all the fault of the starters.

The question i want to ask with this rule is:

what if there are only 4 horses starting in the field? Do ALL horses become "runners" regardless of how long the gates take to open on a particular horse?

1. Gold Circle need to ensure that the equipment is up to standard. Stalls are not and that is GC management responsibility.
2. The Starter failed to call a false start which is human error. Starter is at fault but also NHRA and GC since it is their responsibility to ensure that there are competent officials. We have far too many problems at the start all round the country.
3. The rule in question is flawed and that is an NHRA and operator problem since they wrote the rules.
4 The stipendary stewards on duty DO have discretion in a case like this. They should have declared the race null and void since the favorite was impeded by a faulty gate yet the starter failed to call a false start.
5. Notwithstanding the cock-up, the crowd behaviour was unacceptable.
6. On top of it all, GC management also need to take responsibity for the fact that a stray dog was able to enter the course and could have caused further havoc with the runners.
7. To blame the jockeys and the commentator is ludicrous.

Bushy Wrote:

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> The question i want to ask with this rule is:
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> what if there are only 4 horses starting in the
> field? Do ALL horses become "runners" regardless
> of how long the gates take to open on a particular
> horse?


The question I would like to know is, what if the horse ran 4th and it was the banker in a large/ multiple PA.
That perm would be a losing ticket.
Now, if the horse was scratched and the ruling favourite ran into the placing, then the scratching would have gone onto the favourite. That ticket would survive.