Maybe its time to speak up about Untrusted/unfaithful trainers

triple tempo Wrote:

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> Ziets and Flash are great for the ratings!
> Advertisers must be happy when they post!


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Best entertainment since Cats vs Nom bouts:)o

:S

It amazes me how this game is protected. No skelms????? se moer. Jy kry hulle oorals. <

A week ago we had a topic of a trainer firing & hiring jocks. Last year before the race in the ring the trainer told the owner that the horse will win. The jock disagreed and there was big shyse. The horse came 3rd, You want to tell me that this only happens once a year?

Shit happens

davetheflower Wrote:

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> Titch Wrote:
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> > Flash for 1 million years you never take sh!t
> from
> > nobody why now you want a few idiots to chase
> > you...you must post and if they dont like it
> > rather thay go...
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> I can't remember why Flash stopped posting,I think
> the forum is a lot better with honest debating.
> I think most of us post things we sometimes
> regret.
> But ZO,you do start the most amazing topics,you
> need to do 2 things in future.
> 1.Dont post on the day you lose money and our
> system fails.We all lose,most days.
> 2.Get yourself a role model or agent and run what
> your going to post to them first and see what they
> think


i dont talk from my pocket dave

Pirhobeta Wrote:

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> Nice to see you post Flash Harry....if you want to
> stick someone....you must have the balls to get
> stuck back....


agree

Flash Harry Wrote:

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> I try my best but now I dont keep quiet.
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> ziets I think you have the big problem. this
> problem is call vanity. always you bull shit you
> want to be centre of attention. so you the big
> messiah you can be tell nothing of racing. well my
> boy when you still in the nappie I here these
> story many time it is oldest trick in the book.
> you think this only happen in PE or Kimberley?
> wise up sonny. some trainers here in Joburg they
> cant count to 100 in the old day it seem many
> people own half the horse and surprise this horse
> never run... if you have the balls put the rubbish
> so you can go explain what you meen in the jockey
> club. you are a shit punter now you loose so every
> thing must be crooked what the joke.
>
> now let me ask some more question about this forum
> and the way they can be impartial before I go
> again. robert blumberg say on 239 it is the
> disgrace that blueridge mountain show the trainer
> as alexander when joey is training horse for 2
> months. not the word I here from this forum. if
> harry say this asheley will come running screaming
> and shout about the story. blumberg say alexander
> dont have the winner for 15 year in the cape and
> this stick the punters out who rightly have the
> look and say this is the shit trainer we back
> another horse rather and get roll over. harry say
> this he gets abuse from the peanuts well you guys
> loose out not me


HARRY ....HARRY.......I DONT TALK FROM MY POCKET ....DONT TELL ME I AM A BULLSHITTER,GO TALK YOUR KAK WITH SOMEONE ELSE IF YOU WANT TO INSULT ME FOOL
YOU SAY I AM A SHIT PUNTER???????? WONDER HOW MUCH YOU LOST ALREADY?????? I THINK YOUR INSULTS COMPLIMENT YOUR PERSONALITY AS YOUR ENGLISH DOES...UP TO <

GO WELL AGAIN,I DIDNT MISS YOU

Titch Wrote:

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> ZO my maat jy praat nou kak....you told us the
> same story before that Cliffy told all 3 owners a
> diff horse in the same race in the parade
> ring..can you explain how he did this without the
> others hearing??? come on now dont treat us like
> imbeciles and your source that tells you that the
> HUGE owner got a phone call to say he can put his
> head down in the first is also talking kak...your
> "facts" are completely off the mark so best you
> dont post them here...if you have a prob and are
> so sure about your "facts" then give the Jockey
> Club a call (011) 683 9283 and let them follow up
> on it...this is not the place for conjecture or
> off loading of steam, you gotta learn to loose
> like a man and win like a human being...


LUISTER OU MAAT,JY PRAAT DAREM BAIE VIR N OU WAT NIE WEET WAARVAN JY PRAAT NIE,SO HOU OP MET MY KAKPRAAT AS JY NOG NIE DIE FEITE HET NIE........MUST I FORWARD YOU THE SMS??????????? .....

STOP listening to owners & trainers when you put down your hard earned money. There is such a wealth of information out there, why let the word of someone, be that a trainer/owner/tipster/bulshitter, overwrite the hard work I know you put into deciding on a winner after all the other factors is taken into consideration?

David Safi (Formgrids) recently commented "the only thing that will make you get off your seat / pick up the phone / drive your car to the nearest Tote is – information – the fact that you think you have an inside tip or an insight (real or imagined) into a race" .. use this passion of yours to pick up the trends to your advantage and utilise your data rather than listening to an owner... if you have the facts to prove things WHY not keep quiet..., throw it in your bucket of tricks and use the information to your own advantage the moment the opportunity presents itself again...you know it will ... this way you take advantage of human behavior and do not take yourself on this wild goose chase that will just lead you into more shite in the long run.

You are passionate about the game yes I certainly give you that, and passion is that fuel that leads you to greatness in any endeavor... use this passion to your own advantage, throw the info into your bucket of tricks and next time the opportunity presents itself... rise to the occasion and utilize the new skill acquired to your own advantage. You will always have people try to outsmart you to make a buck.... that's just where mankind have failed... the days of treasured honesty has unfortunately passed & is now long gone, even the best intentions & most "transparent" of trainers fails one day or another... it's humble of you to try and outline the facts, unfortunately since mankind have failed in that aspect this thread will just lead to nothing, again... Trainers bring back the pride to win.., the respect to try even if you fail... do not let a lousy buck stand in the way of your dignity.

shrek Wrote:

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> I am with Titch I would love to see what facts ZO
> has, it looks like ratings after a bad day. I this
> was Poker, I would call and want to see ZO hand.


SHREK.........IT WASNT THAT BAD DAY.......LOST MONEY BUT NOT MUCH AND HOW MANY TIMES DID I SAY NOW ITS NOT FROM MY POCKET

Titch Wrote:

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> davetheflower Wrote:
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> > 1.Dont post on the day you lose money and our
> > system fails.We all lose,most days.
> > 2.Get yourself a role model or agent and run
> what
> > your going to post to them first and see what
> they
> > think
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> or the string of reminders on winning days either
> ..that would be refreshing


WOULD ALSO BE REFRESHING TO SEE CERTAIN PEOPLE THAT KNOW EVERYTHING TIP A BIT MORE AND MOAN A BIT LESS

'Honesty amongst thieves' comes to mind.... Can't complain if your gang gets shot up. You in the game.

I would say a trainer would want to give owners a bit of hope and excitement about their prospects, and they are not fortune tellers. ?

It stands to good reason that if money is involved there will be some swindle. And I would say the biggest swindles are where the lesser limelight is, and the fewer eyes.

ZO,as some people have said, please name the owners and the trainers as we do not need these negative remarks/perceptions of our game. Those trainers who take their owners for a ride must be named and shamed or explain. If you are right,you are right. You will win any court case if you have the evidence.