R31k Trifecta's & More Dubious Results!? Turf. R-7

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12 years 7 months ago
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Oh and I think there's a lot more " Graft " in the football where the " Spur buffalo wings X1 " draw or beat teams that look better than Barcelona on paper daily, mind you I also haven't a clue on that front either. :]y.

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Re: Re: R31k Trifecta's & More Dubious Results!? Turf. R-7

12 years 7 months ago
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SMALL PUNTER - Enchanted Kingsom had TOP form a year ago,could never leave it out of bigger perms in the most competitive race of the night(the old adage,good horses never lose their ability,only their form).I had 4 horses in my PA & survived with Without Malice,that was unlucky not to hold on!!! U need to study mate!

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If the ground is very soft/heavy I look at the breeding,then draw,then form in prevailing conditions..
It's not a sure fire formula but you can come up with some hefty prices that place and occasionally win.

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12 years 7 months ago
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Zietsman Oosthuizen,Thanks man,I try to learn something everyday but some things do continue to confuse me.............one of them, is why the smartest self proclaimed form analyst of all time,sells gym contracts for a living??

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Re: Re: R31k Trifecta's & More Dubious Results!? Turf. R-7

12 years 7 months ago
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rob faux Wrote:
> Zietsman Oosthuizen,Thanks man,I try to learn
> something everyday but some things do continue to
> confuse me.............one of them, is why the
> smartest self proclaimed form analyst of all
> time,sells gym contracts for a living??


Rob's on form this morning..>:D<

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Re: Re: R31k Trifecta&#39;s & More Dubious Results!? Turf. R-7

12 years 7 months ago
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lmao at Rob very good - funny how all the after the race professors jump out after the race but you dont see the millions in their bank accounts

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Re: Re: R31k Trifecta&#39;s & More Dubious Results!? Turf. R-7

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The reason why we don't have big bank accounts is because we do not know everything...... I like many others belivieve MDK'S horse in the last leg was prepping for the bigger features this season.... and on pedigree and form at Turffies and I should have put it in..... but I was fat in the 1st 3 legs and through greed on a bigger % left it out......:S

23 October 2012 Turffontein 5 JP 2,3,4,5,6,WT,1,4,10,11,WT,1,2,3,5,6,7,9,11,12,13,14,15,16,WT,3,5,6 154.00 .1974358 154.00 0.00 L

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Re: Enchanted Kingdom

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[/color] 2007 f. Enchanted Kingdom by Kahal (GB): 4 wins, R203,975, at 3, 1200 - 1600m, placed 5


1st dam
SAFETY NET, unraced; Half sister to MARGOT; dam of 13 foals; 12 runners; 9 winners inc.:
SOFT LANDING (02 f. by Jet Master): 5 wins, R856,255, at 3 to 5, 1000 - 1600m, inc.
Garden Province Stakes, Gr.1, November Handicap, Gr.2, Renounce Stakes, (L),
placed 5 times, inc. 2nd Empress Club Stakes, Gr.1, Camellia Stakes, Gr.2, 3rd KZN
Fillies Guineas Gr.2, Poinsettia Stakes Gr.3.
Cat's Cradle (92 f. by Northern Guest (USA)): 3 wins, R69,790, at 3, 1000 - 1200m,
placed 5 times, inc. 3rd Poinsettia Stakes, (L), died at 3..
Woodland Charmer (95 f. by Fort Wood (USA)): winner, R76,875, at 2, 1200m, placed 6
times, inc. 3rd Gosforth Park Juvenile Fillies S Gr.2, 4th TR Lewis Juvenile Fillies Plate
Gr.3, from only 9 starts; dam of 1 winner.

Aerial Dancer is the dam of Enchanted Kingdom and a very good mating to Kahal and related to Soft Landing through grand dam Safety Net

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Re: Re: R31k Trifecta&#39;s & More Dubious Results!? Turf. R-7

12 years 7 months ago
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The race under discussion was a MR fillies and Mare,so there is always justification and reasons for including the winner.
I have a list,for instance,of all horses presently running way below their "best ever" rating,and after her fine start to her career,she is on it,BUT you can't include every one of those horses everytime they run.........you would go broke.....,so you need some sort of indication that a return to that form maybe imminent.
There were obviously reasons to include it,but at least as many reasons to wait for another day,so to suggest that leaving it out was in some way foolish is a typical "after race" expertise which is so prevalent!
There are a few posters who's bets posted after the race are consistently a lot more profitable than those posted pre-race.

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Re: Re: R31k Trifecta&#39;s & More Dubious Results!? Turf. R-7

12 years 7 months ago
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rob faux Wrote:
,BUT you can't include every one of those horses
> everytime they run.........you would go
> broke....

Now I see why I'm a poor FISH......:S

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Re: Re: R31k Trifecta&#39;s & More Dubious Results!? Turf. R-7

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rob faux Wrote:
> The race under discussion was a MR fillies and
> Mare,so there is always justification and reasons
> for including the winner.
> I have a list,for instance,of all horses presently
> running way below their "best ever" rating,and
> after her fine start to her career,she is on
> it,BUT you can't include every one of those horses
> everytime they run.........you would go
> broke.....,so you need some sort of indication
> that a return to that form maybe imminent.
> There were obviously reasons to include it,but at
> least as many reasons to wait for another day,so
> to suggest that leaving it out was in some way
> foolish is a typical "after race" expertise which
> is so prevalent!
> There are a few posters who's bets posted after
> the race are consistently a lot more profitable
> than those posted pre-race.

There are a few posters who's bets posted after
> the race are consistently a lot more profitable
> than those posted pre-race.

I really wonder what you gain by lying about your betting prowess except a bad reputation - As you and I know Rob the proof is in the Bank not on fantasy bets. Madness

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Re: Re: R31k Trifecta&#39;s & More Dubious Results!? Turf. R-7

12 years 7 months ago
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rob faux Wrote:
> The race under discussion was a MR fillies and
> Mare,so there is always justification and reasons
> for including the winner.
> I have a list,for instance,of all horses presently
> running way below their "best ever" rating,and
> after her fine start to her career,she is on
> it,BUT you can't include every one of those horses
> everytime they run.........you would go
> broke.....,so you need some sort of indication
> that a return to that form maybe imminent.
> There were obviously reasons to include it,but at
> least as many reasons to wait for another day,so
> to suggest that leaving it out was in some way
> foolish is a typical "after race" expertise which
> is so prevalent!
> There are a few posters who's bets posted after
> the race are consistently a lot more profitable
> than those posted pre-race.

Rob, another thing I'm not blaming any form studier for excluding the horse as it was really formless nor am I blowing trumpet because I included it......other detractors here have also tipped real dogs based on draw, lucky number, wifes name, favorite stripper,only runner for the stable, the jockey winked at him,the horse crapped on the winning post line on the way to the post etc......I do not tip horses, I have no need to, nothing to prove, not smarter or braver than any oke that is sick for the game.....this was a post race assesment where some clown made a rather derogatory comment about the race.... I merely commented on the rational why I included it....posted my bet to prove it

I have a completely different outlook to most in assessing horses chances....and believe me I miss more big payouts by not putting a favorite or money horse because they did not appeal to me and get a rating in my system or way of thinking....

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