Phumelela you bunch of thieves

Double Carpet in the last at Kempton paying R10.90 on the jump , ends of paying R7.10 for the win .

Hows this , all previous races were closed before the race jumped besides the last one . It closed after the race finished on R7.90 and immediately refreshed again to R7.10. I took the 7/1 offered on the book so does has no effect on me but what about all the punters in the tote !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

When is this going to end ?? One of the reasons why I never encourage anyone to learn this game .Bunch of thieves . Who audits the tote ??

Returned 8/1 in the UK with no tax

What makes it more frustrating is that nothing is being done about it regardless of all the whining . Is their anybody that can take them on legally ?

Punter spare a thought for those who backed Porgy in the 5th on the tote.... payed R3.00:( for a win BUT with the books 6-1(tu).... And then that Neil Pretorius has the ordasity to continuously ''SHOUT'' the value the tote offers.... I wish he would stop licking Phumelela's A#$e
AND STOP MISLEADING THE R10 PUNTER:X with this sh!t!!!


Anyway, well done with your win... LONG LIVE THE BOOKIE:)

Punter the more I think on this it reminds me of exit polls at election time which can be misleading - perhaps Phumelela should just say "win and place dividends are an estimate subject to correction and ratification " Still the perception is there that the tote is being manipulated which is bad

until a punters association is formed and recognized by pkum and gold circle racing in this country will continue its downward spiral..they seemed threatened by it but dont realise it will be in their best interests

Pretorius is not the only one the whole lot irritate anybody with commonsense they sound like a carsalesman that is overselling -fact is there is no value on the tote the atc is a suckers bet yet all they say well done if you are involved ,what a lot of bullshit and the presenters that read all the info of websites overseas and we got to listen to the strond ,when last did anyone speak sense as a presenter on tellytrack?Jimmy was on the weekend and he carries on how well the horse is bred just to look at the form and correct himself to say I suppose he is a late starter or a 5 year old mare racing for the second time that got got the come on look?Where is Mark Khan ,Brad or a guy like Rhys ?that will put the handbrake to these presenters:-)come and safe us

Missed Jimmy, must of fallen asleep at that time...::)

The English racing is co mingled, The horse paid the same £7,10 on the UK tote so I dont see how you can accuse Phumelela as been a bunch of thieves. Unless they stealing from the UK punter aswell.

There is one segment of the industry that needs to ensure that the punter gets a regulated product and to ensure that the tote provides competitive value,and that is Owners.

Punters do not owe owners their stakes....they owe themselves the best possible ROI.

I have stopped stressing about this anymore and just use a fixed price product wherever possible.

If the owners couldn't be bothered,why should we?

Victoria Tote in Aus shows exactly when and with who they co-mingle with....

How come we never know WHO the races are being con-mingled with in South Arica, why is it confidential?? ... When there is no transparency you tend to be hiding something??

Are you sure Russel,cos that would be +- R80 ?????????
Are their dividends to a pound?When we co-mingle with states we have to up our stake to conform with the ROE.How does the UK work?
IE.Are we in their pools or are they in ours?I thought(but not sure)that the country where the race takes place,hosts the pool?