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hi
Saw this being advertised on TellyTrack this morning.NP sez will be available to bet from 1st Oct 2010.
I havent seen the bet card yet.
Still have some reservations whether it can compete with what most of the bookies have on offer.
The attraction,for me, towards the bookie is the payout regarding 3rd/4th placings.One bookie pays 4 places /14 carded runners,3rd in case of 8 carded(even if theres scratchings in either fields)!
Hope this is the start of many new bettings options to come.

considering the crap regarding the win and place payouts and the relatively small pools we have punters will be shooting themselves in the foot doing this bet,,,rather play it race by race so you can see the dividend on offer and then decide whether to go the bookie route or tote route...a firm no no to this new bet

Good idea, however if you consider we have not been able to resolve the disrepencies in win and place can you imagine the "funny" payouts with an ATC, these Aussies with the big bets and lucky numbers, we could have riots?

Whoopee....R500 atc. 3 horses to place ....xR1 xR1 xR1 = money back........orgasmic!

I wonder if it will include sports betting?

When will the bookies and the tote have multiple ATC..
ie
RACE 1 no 1,4,7,8
ATC
RACE 2 no 4
ATC
RACE 3 no 2,4,6
ATC
RACE 9 no 4,7

24 bets at R100 each

or even
USA GOLF
player 1 @ 4/1
player 2 @ 10/1
Player 3 @ 12/1
Player 4 @ 14/1
ATC
F1 DRIVER
Driver 1 @ 2/1
Driver 2 @ 5/2
ATC
TENNIS
Men
Player 1 @3/1
Player 2 @ 7/2
ATC
TENNIS
Woman
Player 1 @3/1
Player 2 @ 7/2
ATC
Emarald cup
Horse 1 @3/1
Horse 2 @ 9/2
Horse 3 @ 9/2

96 bets at R100 each or 9600
worst return on fav winning is ...4/1 x 2/1 x 3/1 x 3/1 x 3/1 (5x3x4x4x4-1)= 959/1 or 9590/10 or 95900/100

tiresome exersize to type in each bet on William Hill/Betfair or spreading accross many bookies..

First I've heard of this bet, great advertising to masses??

Andrewest Wrote:

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> When will the bookies and the tote have multiple
> ATC..
> ie
> RACE 1 no 1,4,7,8
> ATC
> RACE 2 no 4
> ATC
> RACE 3 no 2,4,6
> ATC
> RACE 9 no 4,7
>
> 24 bets at R100 each
>
> or even
> USA GOLF
> player 1 @ 4/1
> player 2 @ 10/1
> Player 3 @ 12/1
> Player 4 @ 14/1
> ATC
> F1 DRIVER
> Driver 1 @ 2/1
> Driver 2 @ 5/2
> ATC
> TENNIS
> Men
> Player 1 @3/1
> Player 2 @ 7/2
> ATC
> TENNIS
> Woman
> Player 1 @3/1
> Player 2 @ 7/2
> ATC
> Emarald cup
> Horse 1 @3/1
> Horse 2 @ 9/2
> Horse 3 @ 9/2
>
> 96 bets at R100 each or 9600
> worst return on fav winning is ...4/1 x 2/1 x 3/1
> x 3/1 x 3/1 (5x3x4x4x4-1)= 959/1 or 9590/10 or
> 95900/100
>
> tiresome exersize to type in each bet on William
> Hill/Betfair or spreading accross many bookies..



spohe to hollywoodbets and betting world about this a while back .They said they would escalate it to management .Still waiting !

When bookies lay you those bets....they are out...they know they won't be around by Nov to settle when the F1 drivers champion finish.

you can do this on a horse race too,
but have to take the 100 odd bets one at a time...
best not at the same bookie...
best if you are a few guys...and each combination must be less than R100k...or hollywood advertise R500k per ticket....
Make sure that the last leg of the combination have 5 horses...
include 4 in the combinations...
you can punt the 5th horse...long price at your leisure as all 4 will shorten..
especially when you have R500K to win on each...
sit back and watch these bookies chase themselves around on interbet..betfair..phones...lol
nail them 3 times and it over...account closed...limit R25K printed on tickets..

2 bankers tomorrow and 2 horses, 3 horses and 4 horses...

3 or 4 races where you pic 2,3, or 4 winners....spend R10k and collect R500K

Andrewest Wrote:

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> When bookies lay you those bets....they are
> out...they know they won't be around by Nov to
> settle when the F1 drivers champion finish.
>
> you can do this on a horse race too,
> but have to take the 100 odd bets one at a
> time...
> best not at the same bookie...
> best if you are a few guys...and each combination
> must be less than R100k...or hollywood advertise
> R500k per ticket....
> Make sure that the last leg of the combination
> have 5 horses...
> include 4 in the combinations...
> you can punt the 5th horse...long price at your
> leisure as all 4 will shorten..
> especially when you have R500K to win on each...
> sit back and watch these bookies chase themselves
> around on interbet..betfair..phones...lol
> nail them 3 times and it over...account
> closed...limit R25K printed on tickets..
>
> 2 bankers tomorrow and 2 horses, 3 horses and 4
> horses...
>
> 3 or 4 races where you pic 2,3, or 4
> winners....spend R10k and collect R500K

You making me dizzy Andere, in English:P

Fark... me too Greg.... I need a drink -

Doyen, could you tell me where you heard of this bet?

I'll tell you why. The current Amtote system CANNOT handle ATC bets. In order for the system to handle a bet of that type, you have to load all the horses (and combinations) for all the races. In other words, ATC win for no.1 in race 1 onto no.1 in race 2.................

Imagine trying to figure out a lock combination on a safe and there is a display of 5 numbers......the combination is in the millions!!!!!

how can they offer ATC bets on all races?????? The combinations will be in the trillions?!?!?!!?!?!!?

I'm sorry boys, but unless they limit the races in which they allow you to take your ATC bets, I can't see it as being a possibility. I don't mean to rain on anybodies parade, but you cannot program infinitum into any man made object in my opinion.

And if they figured out a way.....GOD help us all. They cannot even get win/place dividends for 1 race correct.

Nuff said!!!!!