USA next President Donald or Joe?

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4 years 7 months ago
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It's worth the watch to see the anti Trump squad loosing their minds on CNN because he won't concede. One wonders if the shoe were on the other foot what the reaction from these sycophants would be.
Thought China would be the first to congratulate thoer buddie Biden but curiously not

I also doubt he has much of a chance to overturn this election however he is allowed to try if he thinks he has been cheated.

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monty wrote: It's worth the watch to see the anti Trump squad loosing their minds on CNN because he won't concede. One wonders if the shoe were on the other foot what the reaction from these sycophants would be.
Thought China would be the first to congratulate thoer buddie Biden but curiously not

I also doubt he has much of a chance to overturn this election however he is allowed to try if he thinks he has been cheated.

They seem to forget Hillary advising Biden NOT to concede. Or how they started the impeachment/Russia bull dust since day 1.

China hasn't "publicly" congratulated him...don't be fooled by this. China, Iran, Europe etc are over the moon.

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Muhtiman wrote: ......bigger problem with Trump losing.....where are Trevor Noah and others going to get the abundance lampoon material if Trump melts into obscurity or even opens his own media platforms.....:huh:

You reckon Biden ain't gonna give them PLENTY ammo? One speech will make three shows.

......Ja Sleepy Joe Biden is an admitted gaffer .....and Trevor has interviewed him a few times in the past.....but I'm with you.....Kamala Harris has piggy backed on him right into the Whitehouse......:woohoo:

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Trump now manoeuvring people around like chess pieces thinking that a coup is going to help him. The majority in the Republican Party accept the result. Only the crooks, like Trump don’t as they know what’s coming their way. Trump asking for donations to fight the result, but instead will use the ill gained money to fight the lawsuits coming his way. Perhaps he should have a word with his son in laws father who spent time behind for being a slum lord.

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Trump now manoeuvring people around like chess pieces thinking that a coup is going to help him. The majority in the Republican Party accept the result. Only the crooks, like Trump don’t as they know what’s coming their way. Trump asking for donations to fight the result, but instead will use the ill gained money to fight the lawsuits coming his way. Perhaps he should have a word with his son in laws father who spent time behind for being a slum lord, witness tampering, illegal campaigning and tax evasion. Ring any bells ?

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Over the past 72 hours Trump has sacked the entire Pentagon civilian leadership and also sacked the heads of agencies who oversee nuclear weapons and electricity and gas supplies. He is planning on a coup and it’s going to work out horribly wrong for him. The idiot is a lunatic

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Howzat?

This correspondent predicted in July 2020 that Trump expected to lose and was going to reject his loss!!

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A Biden victory would deflate Netanyahu – and make Israel sane again




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Trump and Netanyahu talk outside the Oval Office of the White House in Washington, U.S., on January 27, 2020.
Trump and Netanyahu talk outside the Oval Office of the White House in Washington, U.S., on January 27, 2020.Credit: Kevin Lamarque/ REUTERS


In recent weeks, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has repeatedly spread word of his intention to call snap elections. In the latest version of his unattributed leaks, November is the target date, in close and even suspicious proximity to the November 3 elections in the United States.

Perhaps Netanyahu envisages a joint heroic leap with U.S. President Donald Trump into the abyss, a la Thelma [hr]and Louise. Perhaps he’s praying that Trump will make good on his threat to reject his expected loss and plans to follow in his footsteps.
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Netanyahu may also believe that despite the resurgent coronavirus epidemic and the mounting protests against his personal corruption, the lack of a formidable rival will turn elections in his favor.

One way or another, the theoretical conjunction of the two elections campaigns highlights the fact that the Israeli ballot will have only a marginal impact on the country’s future. American voters will determine Israel’s fate, one way or another.



Things you can see from there, however – or from almost anywhere else in the world – can’t be seen from here, apparently.

The only prism through which the Israeli public currently views the U.S. election is Trump’s supposedly pro-Israel policies. His incessant lies and blatant corruption, the fear and loathing he disseminates, the erosion of democracy and the free fall in America’s stature in the world – all of these, it seems, are of little interest.

The almost supernatural similarities between the political and emotional state of Trump and Netanyahu – both congenital liars and obsessive self-victimizers who detest checks and balances and have been hit hard by their mismanagement of the coronavirus epidemic – blinds most Israelis to the historic, dichotomous decision American voters will make on November 3.



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Living in a parallel universe of bedlam, lunacy and rampant malfeasance at the top, President Trump’s lunacy seems relatively normal when viewed through Israeli eyes. It even relieves some of the anxiety and angst over our local meshugas, because misery loves company.

The U.S. election, more than any in recent history, is a T-junction from which the United States can only turn in one of two diametrically opposite ways. A Trump victory, which currently seems improbable, would give a clear stamp of approval to his divisive, immoral and destructive presidency. America as we know it – and Israel in its wake – might survive one Trump term, but surely not two.

A second Trump term would irrevocably depose the United States from its position as leader of the free world. It would cripple international organizations and drive a final wedge into the North Atlantic alliance. It would delight Vladimir Putin and encourage dictators and strongmen throughout the world.



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A Trump victory would not only help Netanyahu get reelected, it would spell four more years of hyper-nationalism and disdain for Palestinians. It would bring Israeli democracy to its breaking point.

A Joe Biden victory, on the other hand, will be greeted with a collective sigh of relief throughout the democratic world.

It would resuscitate the United States, calm its internal strife and reinstate its commanding role in world affairs. A Biden victory is also likely to revert Israel to its former sanity, such as it was, force it to engage once again with Palestinians and save its bleeding democracy.

Trump gave Israel a free hand to do whatever it wants because he doesn’t really care. Biden would put on the brakes to prevent Israel from going completely off the rails.

Trump’s return would give Netanyahu a moral win that will boost his chances for an electoral victory as well. Trump’s defeat, on the other hand, would render Netanyahu an embarrassing liability, to be discarded as swiftly as possible.

A Biden win would reverse the ugly wave of right-wing nationalist zealotry that has flourished under Netanyahu and Trump’s willfully blind eye. Israelis should be anxiously awaiting the U.S. election, therefore, rather than jumping up and down with excitement whenever Netanyahu bats an eyelid.



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Re: USA next President Donald or Joe?

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fingers wrote: LOL
you can put 40,000 GBP on biden at 1/10 (not 1/100 or 1/1000) - not bad for a supposed done and dusted result

some people just know more than the other clever boys

don't put your grannies pension fund on it

and don't spend your "winnings" too early

Txs Fingers and they still have 1/10 and 9/1 as the market is almost at 600,000,000 GBP

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Bookies are not in the business of giving away money. The talk on MSM, and SM is that Biden has already won.
That is clearly not the case.

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Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) has drafted “anti-mob” legislation that would expand the state’s Stand Your Ground law – a move that some worry would allow armed citizens to shoot and potentially kill anyone they suspect of looting.

DeSantis’ newest legislation comes in response to months of protesting that frequently lead to rioting this summer in Florida and across the U.S., following the death of George Floyd, a black man who died after a white Minneapolis police officer knelt on his neck for nearly nine minutes.

The legislation is an attempt to prevent “violent and disorderly assemblies” by permitting violence against anyone involved in the “interruption or impairment” of a business, reportedly described in the draft as being a burglary within 500 feet of “violent or disorderly assembly,” according to reporting by the Miami Herald Tuesday
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The democrats are obviously against this.

Which parties in SA will be for this, and which would be against it?

Food for thought.

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Lionel wrote: Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) has drafted “anti-mob” legislation that would expand the state’s Stand Your Ground law – a move that some worry would allow armed citizens to shoot and potentially kill anyone they suspect of looting.

DeSantis’ newest legislation comes in response to months of protesting that frequently lead to rioting this summer in Florida and across the U.S., following the death of George Floyd, a black man who died after a white Minneapolis police officer knelt on his neck for nearly nine minutes.

The legislation is an attempt to prevent “violent and disorderly assemblies” by permitting violence against anyone involved in the “interruption or impairment” of a business, reportedly described in the draft as being a burglary within 500 feet of “violent or disorderly assembly,” according to reporting by the Miami Herald Tuesday
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The democrats are obviously against this.

Which parties in SA will be for this, and which would be against it?

Food for thought.

No rational person should ever contemplate this - You have a government that pays the Police and the Army to protect citizens and their property with your taxes - When it is ok for Citizens of any political persuasion to take up arms against each other the Government has failed - Trumpsters should be very careful as a red bullet is as dangerous as a blue bullet - Hopefully the rest of the civilized world leave the USA to destroy itself if it so chooses -

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there are still trials ahead. maybe the rates will be again

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