USA next President Donald or Joe?

The wife was pro-Hillary in 2016 and yet now, she is pro-DJT for one reason only...he tries to get "enemies" to the table...tries to make a "deal"...tries to keep the US out of the affairs of other countries when their previous involvement escalated things...

Yes, he is narcissistic and full of hyperbole but he has, on an objective basis when one looks at his 2016 manifesto, accomplished the most of any president in the last 60+ years...he talks but also does...many do not like how he does what he does but he gets things done...

I think many people do not realise that in a governance structure like the US has (federal constitutional republic), the governors of states have wide powers and there are mechanisms in place to prevent the president usurping those powers hence, for example, he cannot force schools to open, businesses to open, impose a nationwide mask requirement, etc

We have a unitary state and what the thieving ANC decides goes for the entire country...and more often it is what is going to enable them to pilfer the most money from the fast decreasing taxpayer base...

Magi wrote:

Muhtiman wrote: .....sadly Trump will cake walk it.....the Democrats have fielded a very weak candidate......Trump is nothing other than pure entertainment value and identifies with the many many millions of America's voting bumpkins.....heaven help them should they face a major international crisis of perceived aggression ....as the buffoon will try nuke any one that farts in his general direction.....:oops:

....Jerry Springer must be kicking himself that he never thought of going into politics.....he'd be a much bigger smash than Trump.....

Extremely uninformed comment Muhti .... Trump is ANTI war . The Democrats are seriously evil in my opinion, willing to incite riots and divisive hatred to get into power, after which they deliver NOTHING to the brainwashed masses that voted for them.

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.....we dont realy know Trump as he is an extremely loose cannon he talks before he can engage his pea brain and he may not know what to do when backed into a corner....and historically the Republicans have always been on the side of making money by instigating power plays so that the war machines can generate mucho moola....look at those Bush boys and the phony weapons of mass destruction.....there is now a new war for Trump....he is personally heavily invested in the PPE business.... not so much in masks though.... but his companies have bought up a f@ck load of nitrile gloves..... :ohmy:

Now that the man is out of hospital

6/10 joe
16/10 Donald
110/1 mike pence
160/1 Kamala
800/1 Hilary

....cant stand the man....but hey 16/10 is mighty generous.....

Won't comment on Trump.
He is not a politician and never professed to be.
He is ruthless,successful businessman whose brief when he ran for President was to get people back to work and stop America financially propping up the rest of the world.
To be fair he had considerable success.
He has met world leaders that other Presidents never met.
His methods are to say the least suspect.

What really concerns me is that a man nearly in his mid 80's is the best on offer to run against him in the forthcoming election.
A man who will be nudging 90 at the end of his first term.
Surely there are younger possible candidates within the Democrats.
Obamah was relatively young when elected but was a greying old man when he finished.
This indicates the pressue of the job.

Quid Pro PEDO Joe is currently 77...if he gets to the White House and survives the extreme leftists and KH's ambition, he will be 82 at the end of a first term...at birthday is next month...

Will be interesting how Billary warms to KH getting to the presidency when she thought that throne was hers!!??

Anyone else here sees the similarities between the ANC and current incarnation of the Democrats in thought, policy, word and action?

Farawaysaint wrote: Won't comment on Trump.
He is not a politician and never professed to be.
He is ruthless,successful businessman whose brief when he ran for President was to get people back to work and stop America financially propping up the rest of the world.
To be fair he had considerable success.
He has met world leaders that other Presidents never met.
His methods are to say the least suspect.

What really concerns me is that a man nearly in his mid 80's is the best on offer to run against him in the forthcoming election.
A man who will be nudging 90 at the end of his first term.
Surely there are younger possible candidates within the Democrats.
Obamah was relatively young when elected but was a greying old man when he finished.
This indicates the pressue of the job.

Trump is anything but a successful business man. Why do you think he has only paid tax twice in 10 or so years. He is in half a billion Dollar debt, and won't disclose to whom he owes that to. He may be immune from prosecution now, being the President, or for another 4 years if re-elected, but once out of office, the Law will catch up with him. Ever wondered why he was so quick to fill the vacant seat left by RBG?

@bayern .... he filled the seat to prevent the Democrats putting in a liberal judge...as it is the Democrats stated intention to scrap the second amendment and the filibuster clause (go read up about these).... that would put the DSA on a slippery slope into Marxism (which has never worked in any of the 25 countries who have tried it {hello Venezuela....hello Cuba.... }

As regards the taxes.... where has this been disclosed other than mainstream media... which are controlled by the Democrats and the 'new tech kids on the block' read Bezos, Gates, Zuckerberg et al.

The only thing I can say for certain .... NOT ONE OF THESE POLITICIANS OR THERE REPRESENTATIVES CAN BE TRUSTED TO SPEAK THE TRUTH...LIES, NON-DISCLOSURE AND INNUENDOS ARE THE POLITICIANS CREDO...and I am talking about Right, Left and Center.

I wish I was as unsuccessful as Trump...come on, man :lol: :lol: :lol:

Lionel wrote: I wish I was as unsuccessful as Trump...come on, man :lol: :lol: :lol:

Lionel, are you insinuating Trump is not in that amount of debt? He has paid more to porn stars than to the tax man.

Time will be the judge.

.....dont forget that Donald was a trust fund baby.....he is extremely fortunate that his Daddy was born before him....and had he not made a single investment his current nett worth would be double....:dry:

bayern wrote:

Lionel wrote: I wish I was as unsuccessful as Trump...come on, man :lol: :lol: :lol:

Lionel, are you insinuating Trump is not in that amount of debt? He has paid more to porn stars than to the tax man.

Time will be the judge.

Bayern, I honestly have no idea what DJT's debt looks like. But what I can tell you is that debt is not necessarily a bad thing. Its only bad if your debt > assets. Most businesses use financing options to grow. They key is to keep it at a manageable level.

Again, I have no idea how much he has paid to the tax man. Warren Buffet apparently pays less tax than his secretary. Tax is a legal issue, and not a moral one. If I could find a way to pay zero tax legally, I would.
Won't you, Bayern?

As for paying porn stars. Well, as George Best said, 50% of his money, he spent on alcohol, drugs and women.
The other 50%, he squandered. At least Trump is not squandering his money :lol: :lol: