USA next President Donald or Joe?

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Bidens son, with no qualifications, was sitting on the boards of this Ukraine company that was being investigated. Biden is on video saying that he withheld $2B funding from the Ukraine, unless they fired the prosecutor. The prosecutor got fired.

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Lionel wrote: Bidens son, with no qualifications, was sitting on the boards of this Ukraine company that was being investigated. Biden is on video saying that he withheld $2B funding from the Ukraine, unless they fired the prosecutor. The prosecutor got fired. (This has been debunked by various sources already - in order "catch" Joe Biden, they would have to show he did something illegal, that simple.

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KYIV -- When Viktor Shokin was fired as Ukraine's prosecutor-general in March 2016, after less than 14 months in the post, it was seen as a crucial development in a country under pressure to curb corruption and get serious about reforms. Now Shokin’s dismissal, and Ukraine itself, are at the center of a political whirlwind in Washington that is buffeting Donald Trump's presidency and playing into the 2020 White House race.

Here is a look at the arguments, facts, and evidence in the dispute pitting Trump against former Vice President Joe Biden, a front-runner for the Democratic nomination to challenge the incumbent in the election next year.

Trump and his allies, including his personal lawyer, Rudolph Giuliani, the former mayor of New York, accuse Biden of using his position as vice president and point man on relations with Kyiv in 2016 to help Burisma -- a Ukrainian energy company that was paying Biden's son Hunter, who was on its board of directors -- avoid damage from a criminal investigation.

They assert that Shokin was overseeing an active criminal investigation into Burisma and that Biden at the time told Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko that the United States would withhold $1 billion in loan guarantees unless Shokin was fired.

But Ukrainian prosecutors and anti-corruption activists with knowledge of the matter argue that the timeline of developments in the Burisma case and Shokin's stint as chief prosecutor simply does not fit the narrative being put forward by Trump and his allies.

Moreover, they say that Shokin himself was the biggest obstacle standing in the way of the investigation.
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Roll on Nov 3rd
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This is like Deja Vu , I remember 4 years ago some posters on this forum where celebrating Hillary Clintons victory :lol: that ended in tears for the Clinton's and Its looking the same for the Bidens :woohoo: :whistle:

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Mueller should investigate Biden.

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Lionel wrote: Mueller should investigate Biden.

Honestly don't believe Trump and the Republicans want to see or hear from Mueller ever again - his a Democrat, and even worse, a Never-Trumper.

Even if Muller did (investigate), and came up empty, you'd say the same, guaranteed.
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Are the wheels starting to fall off? Very good movie to watch, Totally Under Control, do yourself a favour.

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bayern wrote:
Lionel wrote: Mueller should investigate Biden.

Honestly don't believe Trump and the Republicans want to see or hear from Mueller ever again - his a Democrat, and even worse, a Never-Trumper.

Even if Muller did (investigate), and came up empty, you'd say the same, guaranteed.

I was being facetious. Glad you acknowledge Muellers political affiliation. They should get a never bidener to run the investigation.

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bayern wrote:
Lionel wrote: Mueller should investigate Biden.

Honestly don't believe Trump and the Republicans want to see or hear from Mueller ever again - his a Democrat, and even worse, a Never-Trumper.

Even if Muller did (investigate), and came up empty, you'd say the same, guaranteed.

I was being facetious. Glad you acknowledge Meuller's political affiliation. They should get a never bidener to run the investigation.

Doesn't matter who does the investigation, they need to be independent, fair and let the chips fall where the may. I've never denied Mueller's political affiliation.

Do you think Mueller lied in the/his report, if affirmative, how did you reach that conclusion?
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Of course Mueller didn't lie. They found nothing.

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Lionel wrote: Of course Mueller didn't lie. They found nothing.

Don't think this will interest you, the bit about the Mueller report about the 2.16 mark, thought the entire clip is good :-

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