This is what is needed to push a start to racing

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Re: This is what is needed to push a start to racing

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Garrick wrote: Here's a fantasy scenario possibly highlighting the other side of the coin :

1.) Remember the 'application to race on the top of the pile' from a week or so ago'? Let's assume that was entirely true. Now imagine all of the alleged 700 special dispensation applications at that time; each in their own slim brown folders.
2.) All of these applications would probably have been stacked on a boardroom table somewhere as there were far too many to put on a desk top.
3.) Some unidentified idividual or individuals were tasked with addressing each application.
4.) Eventually an official ( who probably knows nothing about racing and who can blame him/her ) opens the slim brown folder and skims over the application. Here's what he/she deduces even from a position of relative ignorance:

a. It is a sport that is totally untransformed yet seeks a dispensation.
b. It's white and its elitist. A plaything for the rich.
c. It's non-essential no matter how loudly a handful of panicky insiders rant.
d. It involves gambling - which does nothing other than further impoverish most who support it. As many of those supporters are now on state funded life support why give them any opportunity to fritter away even a fraction of their grants?
e. Only 60,000 jobs are at risk. Possibly that's an exaggeration and a pinprick compared to some other threatenend industries.
f. Racing only accounts for 10% of the overall SA horse population.
g. It has a long history of attracting dodgy individuals. Wasn't that Jooste oke involved there until recently?
h. It condones and applauds insider trading
i. It has litigated against government on numerous occasions when it cannot get its own way.

No - let them wait until Level 2 or 1.

Application refused. Or better still - just pend it.

Garrick some of your points are valid. Personally I doubt very very much the EFF will allow racing to start until the bitter end. That being said I also add that horse racing has at its core, betting through the tote system which will also be last to open. Those are probably the 2 major points why I do not see it open soon at all, which you have missed.

Please note I did not say that they will get it right. The point I am making is that you do not get approval for something like horse racing in a country like SA to start before other maybe more important industries, by going to the media begging. The industry I am in did it properly. Remember for most owners racing not continuing ever, saves a lot of owners a lot of money and its fairly easy just to move your interest if you find that appealing as an owner to another country.

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RA Stranger wrote: Then maybe one of them pop up in the RA CEO role at a slightly lower salary ?

Sure the RA appointed two new board members the other day. Not sure why?
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Yes I saw that, but the salaried CEO position has not as yet been announced, unless the bath towel has given up with the toilet paper gigs and now is their man for the job.

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oscar wrote:
Garrick wrote: Here's a fantasy scenario possibly highlighting the other side of the coin :

1.) Remember the 'application to race on the top of the pile' from a week or so ago'? Let's assume that was entirely true. Now imagine all of the alleged 700 special dispensation applications at that time; each in their own slim brown folders.
2.) All of these applications would probably have been stacked on a boardroom table somewhere as there were far too many to put on a desk top.
3.) Some unidentified idividual or individuals were tasked with addressing each application.
4.) Eventually an official ( who probably knows nothing about racing and who can blame him/her ) opens the slim brown folder and skims over the application. Here's what he/she deduces even from a position of relative ignorance:

a. It is a sport that is totally untransformed yet seeks a dispensation.
b. It's white and its elitist. A plaything for the rich.
c. It's non-essential no matter how loudly a handful of panicky insiders rant.
d. It involves gambling - which does nothing other than further impoverish most who support it. As many of those supporters are now on state funded life support why give them any opportunity to fritter away even a fraction of their grants?
e. Only 60,000 jobs are at risk. Possibly that's an exaggeration and a pinprick compared to some other threatenend industries.
f. Racing only accounts for 10% of the overall SA horse population.
g. It has a long history of attracting dodgy individuals. Wasn't that Jooste oke involved there until recently?
h. It condones and applauds insider trading
i. It has litigated against government on numerous occasions when it cannot get its own way.

No - let them wait until Level 2 or 1.

Application refused. Or better still - just pend it.

Garrick some of your points are valid. Personally I doubt very very much the EFF will allow racing to start until the bitter end. That being said I also add that horse racing has at its core, betting through the tote system which will also be last to open. Those are probably the 2 major points why I do not see it open soon at all, which you have missed.

Please note I did not say that they will get it right. The point I am making is that you do not get approval for something like horse racing in a country like SA to start before other maybe more important industries, by going to the media begging. The industry I am in did it properly. Remember for most owners racing not continuing ever, saves a lot of owners a lot of money and its fairly easy just to move your interest if you find that appealing as an owner to another country.

I think the EFF love Racing or maybe only the July - just do a google search and you will see they spent mountains of cash there in 2017 and also Julius is said to have given a sex talk to his male followers there in 2019 :evil:
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Talking about the EFF

I saw the Groom boss moaning on SM today that there’s been no testing

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Re: This is what is needed to push a start to racing

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mr hawaii wrote:
oscar wrote:
Garrick wrote: Here's a fantasy scenario possibly highlighting the other side of the coin :

1.) Remember the 'application to race on the top of the pile' from a week or so ago'? Let's assume that was entirely true. Now imagine all of the alleged 700 special dispensation applications at that time; each in their own slim brown folders.
2.) All of these applications would probably have been stacked on a boardroom table somewhere as there were far too many to put on a desk top.
3.) Some unidentified idividual or individuals were tasked with addressing each application.
4.) Eventually an official ( who probably knows nothing about racing and who can blame him/her ) opens the slim brown folder and skims over the application. Here's what he/she deduces even from a position of relative ignorance:

a. It is a sport that is totally untransformed yet seeks a dispensation.
b. It's white and its elitist. A plaything for the rich.
c. It's non-essential no matter how loudly a handful of panicky insiders rant.
d. It involves gambling - which does nothing other than further impoverish most who support it. As many of those supporters are now on state funded life support why give them any opportunity to fritter away even a fraction of their grants?
e. Only 60,000 jobs are at risk. Possibly that's an exaggeration and a pinprick compared to some other threatenend industries.
f. Racing only accounts for 10% of the overall SA horse population.
g. It has a long history of attracting dodgy individuals. Wasn't that Jooste oke involved there until recently?
h. It condones and applauds insider trading
i. It has litigated against government on numerous occasions when it cannot get its own way.

No - let them wait until Level 2 or 1.

Application refused. Or better still - just pend it.

Garrick some of your points are valid. Personally I doubt very very much the EFF will allow racing to start until the bitter end. That being said I also add that horse racing has at its core, betting through the tote system which will also be last to open. Those are probably the 2 major points why I do not see it open soon at all, which you have missed.

Please note I did not say that they will get it right. The point I am making is that you do not get approval for something like horse racing in a country like SA to start before other maybe more important industries, by going to the media begging. The industry I am in did it properly. Remember for most owners racing not continuing ever, saves a lot of owners a lot of money and its fairly easy just to move your interest if you find that appealing as an owner to another country.

I think the EFF love Racing or maybe only the July - just do a google search and you will see they spent mountains of cash there in 2017 and also Julius is said to have given a sex talk to his male followers there in 2019 :evil:
pbs.twimg.com/media/D-z5KpyXoAA6OAq?format=jpg&name=large

Once again incorrect, maybe Malema likes attending the July, but obviously you have missed who were the party organizing the grooms strikes at Raanjies and Turffontein

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