Black Friday for Phumelela

Garrick wrote: Oscar - I find your response completely confusing and would appreciate your clarification.

Quote - 'Without Tellytrack there is no horse racing.....'

That's patently incorrect. It is already an accepted fact that the viewrship enjoyed by Tellytrack is already so small that Multichoice wished to dump it and use the slot for other offerings. Racing's survival is most certainly NOT dependent on Tellytrack,

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.....they already do a bigger turnover than the tote on races including the open bet

Who is the 'they' you are referring to? I'm totally confused. (But I'm old so you need to cut me some slack).

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........horseracing goes local bookmakers will battle..

Sorry! But wrong again. Most of them wouldn't even notice racing's demise. Soccer, numbers etc., long ago overtook racing.

By way of a simple example allow me to quote you the example of my own bookmaker. He has been in the business for about 40 years and has a substantial clientele.

Racing comprises about 20% of his current turnover. That's down from about 60% 5 year ago. The real bookmaking game is about sport. Nothing more. Nothing less.

Now also allow me to quote you my own expereience :

I statrted in racing in 1972. For nearly 30 years my betting was exclusively on local SA racing. From about 2000 onwards I developed a preference for UK racing and sport until my retirement from ALL punting in the last year.

As soon as UK streaming became available I stopped using Tellytrack altogether unless it was in the evening when the TV broadcast has a slightly lesser delay period than the stream. Other than that I AVOIDED Tellytrack altogether because of its poor production quality and its absolutely dreadful in studio 'pundits'.

During this period sports betting also gained traction. My activity in this field quickly comprised hundreds of thousands of rands in betting activity. Racing shrunk further.

Over the same period I owned approximately 40 - 50 horses. Today I have one. It will be my last. I too would not even notice if SA racing evaporated. Given the amount of effort the operator has expended on ruining it there is no surprise there.

Everything ends. If racing were to die (and declining interest and on course attendance is any guide) don't expect a big turnout at the funeral.

Garrick wrote: Oscar - I find your response completely confusing and would appreciate your clarification.

Quote - 'Without Tellytrack there is no horse racing.....'

That's patently incorrect. It is already an accepted fact that the viewrship enjoyed by Tellytrack is already so small that Multichoice wished to dump it and use the slot for other offerings. Racing's survival is most certainly NOT dependent on Tellytrack,

Quote -

.....they already do a bigger turnover than the tote on races including the open bet

Who is the 'they' you are referring to? I'm totally confused. (But I'm old so you need to cut me some slack).

Quote :

........horseracing goes local bookmakers will battle..

Sorry! But wrong again. Most of them wouldn't even notice racing's demise. Soccer, numbers etc., long ago overtook racing.

By way of a simple example allow me to quote you the example of my own bookmaker. He has been in the business for about 40 years and has a substantial clientele.

Racing comprises about 20% of his current turnover. That's down from about 60% 5 year ago. The real bookmaking game is about sport. Nothing more. Nothing less.

Now also allow me to quote you my own expereience :

I statrted in racing in 1972. For nearly 30 years my betting was exclusively on local SA racing. From about 2000 onwards I developed a preference for UK racing and sport until my retirement from ALL punting in the last year.

As soon as UK streaming became available I stopped using Tellytrack altogether unless it was in the evening when the TV broadcast has a slightly lesser delay period than the stream. Other than that I AVOIDED Tellytrack altogether because of its poor production quality and its absolutely dreadful in studio 'pundits'.

During this period sports betting also gained traction. My activity in this field quickly comprised hundreds of thousands of rands in betting activity. Racing shrunk further.

Over the same period I owned approximately 40 - 50 horses. Today I have one. It will be my last. I too would not even notice if SA racing evaporated. Given the amount of effort the operator has expended on ruining it there is no surprise there.

Everything ends. If racing were to die (and declining interest and on course attendance is any guide) don't expect a big turnout at the funeral.

Muhtiman wrote: ......the posters at SP are really putting the boot in.....:whistle:

BATMAN wrote: I wonder if Bernard Kantor has ever walked into a dirty tote,sat down on those hard orange chairs,in a shop where the toilets are out of order and when you place a bet the staff behind the machine don’t know what they are doing. Then compare to a open bet bookmaker who looks after their customers,have a clean outlet,food and drink on offer.
As a CEO he failed in this business