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This umpteenth round of karl bashing urges me to ask the following question.
Are the stipes blind or paid off. If any then it is a severe indictment of racings authorities. Its amazing how easily burnt fingers are pointed at Karl when no charge is laid at the doors of those responsible for your protection.

Aussie Rulz....9 runs...7 places...Karl been aboard all but once...if Crawford not happy then why keep him on????

I'd be surprised should you get a logical answer to that one Puffin.

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Karl is a great rider, has been champion jockey in the Cape plenty times, and ridden many Grp 1 winners in his career. due to him being a good jock he often rides favourites which - he didnt make fav but the bookies did. the abilty of many of these horses is there for all to see- Aussie rulz is a battling maiden and if one studies its form you will notice the rubbish it has ran against and still cant win -so give the man a break and see the form before criticizing his riding.

Nice when a good man stands up for a crap jockey. Karl is an absolute crap jockey. When he was hungry and not into punting he was great. Time has made him bad. I have been standing with him when he gave 2 of his odds on as unbeatable, yet they didn't even made the places. Before I back Karl Ill find the horse with the worst draw and form and put my money onto that, it will have a better chance of winning!!!

Probably accumulating his retirement egg

I am going to speculate now but i would say most jockeys and trainers dont study the form before they tip a horse but go by the work based on the horses previous work- it still might not be good enough to win. thats why i say- if they knew the form better then they could perhaps tip with more confidence.

All i will say is if you brass Top Jocks you will be in trouble.

No matter what anyone says Karl is still a top rider and although getting on in life he still has a lot to offer and i would suggest the Cape's younger riders learn from him to place a horse.

Yes learn to place the horses out of the placings.

I think the line between a bad ride and a good ride is very fine.
Sometimes the jock follows the trainers instructions and the horse does not perform but from the outside looking in the Jock gets blamed for a bad ride.

Where jocks genuinely ride a bad race the stewards take it up as seen with Andrew Fortune.

With regards Karl and the Crawford runners.
Karl has the relationship with the yard and i would guess that the yard would want the best possible jock aboard if they think the horse can win. If he was riding poorly on purpose i am sure the yard would have booted him by now.

5 top jocks in Cape Town at the moment.

Fourie
Fortune
Cheyne
Faydherbe
Neisius

Agree - those jocks mentioned top jocks in SA at moment not just Cape.

On a more positive note, agree with Sylvester, regarding top 3 jockeys, but I would like to raise another point, and that is...how does a top,inform jockey suddenly go "off form",....

unless of course, the horse suddenly goes "off form"

Having said this, surely work riding is supposed to identify horses that are not "in form' or horses that are "off the boil"..and is that not why jockeys do work riding.

So this raises some other issues

a) is a trainer giving an "in form" jockey a not so good ride,hoping he would get the best out of the horse,..this is acceptable, as we see many a good priced horse winning with a good jockey....the only time this happens though, is when the bookies slip up.

b) a horse with good form, ridden by a top jockey, short priced accordingly, but fails to win the race, or run a place (BOOKIES FAVOURITES...PUNTERS NIGHTMARE)...this is misleading the punter, and is tantemount to fraud

c)when obvious favourites, lose or run unplaced, just who is "in the know", and who gains the most. in terms of PA's, JP's and P6's....definitely not the 95% of punters who rely on this as means of income,and who provide the bulk of the pool, more a case of building up the pool and sharing amongst an elite group of people "in the know", again, tantemount to fraud.

d) out of curiosity, it would be interesting to know, who the massive PAYOUTS go to...kind of like the Lotto, don't you think...

A shrewd game indeed,...crooked...., definitely, but still a game to get the adrenilin flowing, and to try and outwit those in the know....

Happy punting