Durban July Poll - Final Field

Poll: Durban July Poll (was ended 2021-10-06 16:19:28)

Marinaresco
4 3.4%
Nightingale
4 3.4%
Black Arthur
20 17.2%
Edict Of Nantes
15 12.9%
Al Sahem
18 15.5%
Mr Winsome
7 6%
Elusive Silva
5 4.3%
Pagoda
2 1.7%
Mr Tilbury
1 0.9%
Safe Harbour
3 2.6%
Horizon(res)
4 3.4%
French Navy
2 1.7%
Nebula(res)
No votes 0%
Master Sabina
2 1.7%
Brazuca
2 1.7%
Krambambuli
6 5.2%
Saratoga Dancer
1 0.9%
The Conglomerate
5 4.3%
It's My Turn
9 7.8%
Ten Gun Salute
6 5.2%
Total number of voters: 116
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  • drdom
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Re: Durban July Poll - Final Field

7 years 11 months ago
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Zietsman Oosthuizen wrote:
Frodo wrote: Makes sense, Ziets..... but I thought Gold Standard was at 115; if he is at 108, the theory that Al Sahem and Edict of Nantes are 'thrown in' does not hold water....

He was a 108 coming into this race and i think he ran to about that also.
Alsahem and EON is not thrown in , they just in front but have more possible improvement to come .
Al sahem i think will win
I agree on the Gold Standard rating of 108 and that the 3 yo' are not "slung in" but rather reasonably weighted.
I think all of them are maturing well and have big chances , not weighted out of it as in some years.


The problem with the perceived "well in, 3yo" ratings is that it's based on 1 performance of 1 3yo in the met.

The last 2 years LE and CA have finished second and third to horses that have run massively above their best ratings according to the Met result.These 2 have proven they are exceptional milers, and probably both been well under their best ratings over the 2000m .I think both the Met Winners have been given too high a rating based on an assumption that the 2 above mentioned ran close to their mile ratings. Both were exported so won't be able to prove this but Smart Call has probably run closer to her pre Met ratings than her Post Met rating in the Uk so far.

So while I do expect the 3yo crop to be competitive here, and are capable of further improvement, I think the well weighted 4yos are "better in" than expected.

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Re: Durban July Poll - Final Field

7 years 11 months ago
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I'm going with Black Arthur. Has run some fantastic races in the past...and apparently Delpach tipped him as his winner.

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Re: Durban July Poll - Final Field

7 years 11 months ago
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IMO the only class1 runners are Al Sahem, Edict Of Nantes, Nightingale and possibly Safe Harbour. The others are handicappers and are not worthy to win the race. Marinaresco and French Navy are not Class 1's. Hard gamblers should take a wide Dutch spread.

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Re: Durban July Poll - Final Field

7 years 11 months ago
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Banele21 wrote: Marinaresco and French Navy are both grade 1 winners
FN ran only 2.4 lnghts behind Legal Eagle (123) in the Horse Chestnut just about 3 months ago - at level weights!!!! One bad run with blinkers and suddenly he's not good enough to run in the July!! I will include him in everything
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Re: Durban July Poll - Final Field

7 years 11 months ago
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Banele21 wrote: absolutely and look at Marinaresco both have proven form

FN Highest earner in the field 4.9 mil...57% in the first 3 Mar 2.5 mil and 76% first 3 - only Al Sahem has a better first 3 finish rate at 100% - Obviously its a handicap but FN and Mar are proper Gr 1 horses on past form so to ignore them is unwise

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Re: Durban July Poll - Final Field

7 years 11 months ago
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Black Arthur hits the front

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