Sports Minister Shock Announcement Transformation
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9 years 1 month ago
SA were never going to get a cricket World Cup as the big three, India, Australia and England have the next 7 between them.
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Re: Sports Minister Shock Announcement Transformation
9 years 1 month ago
Lol
Safa has reached its target?
What target? Was not qualifying for afcon the target?
Jokes
But anyhow cricket and rugby sa have definitely declined so maybe a big wake up call.
As for development he cant blame anyone but government for not introducing a tip top development program for a country filled with talented youngsters
Safa has reached its target?
What target? Was not qualifying for afcon the target?
Jokes
But anyhow cricket and rugby sa have definitely declined so maybe a big wake up call.
As for development he cant blame anyone but government for not introducing a tip top development program for a country filled with talented youngsters
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9 years 1 month ago
Unfortunately for the minister there is no substitute for talent. Truly talented sportsman will come through the system and would never need a leg up as they would earn it on merit as we have seen with many players already.
Even coming from my privileged white background with every opportunity I never became a national player because I was simply not good enough to cut it. No excuses required as my talents lie elsewhere.
I know very few people that would not be happy with the whole Bok team being players of colour as long as they are the best that the country is able to offer.
Its only politicians who have nothing better to do than to stir up racial divide before elections that worry about colour. Colour is not an issue but attitudes and agendas are and as long as this is the case the country will never heal.
Even coming from my privileged white background with every opportunity I never became a national player because I was simply not good enough to cut it. No excuses required as my talents lie elsewhere.
I know very few people that would not be happy with the whole Bok team being players of colour as long as they are the best that the country is able to offer.
Its only politicians who have nothing better to do than to stir up racial divide before elections that worry about colour. Colour is not an issue but attitudes and agendas are and as long as this is the case the country will never heal.
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9 years 1 month ago
Fikile Mbulala is not a leader. A leader inspires and motivates. He's a manager and administrator of policy (which is unquestioned and robustly debated 22 years after democracy). He executes quotas. He threatens, bullies, withholds privileges/ rights and jeopardises the greater good of sport and nation building.
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9 years 1 month ago
I am in favor of equal opportunity and all it entails, but I don't think I will ever be able to figure out why anybody can think it is 'right' that 50% of a team needs to be black (or white or pink or brown for that matter) even if those 50% are not good enough to be selected despite their race....in the same way I will never be able to understand why there is (as far as I'm aware) no such qualification as far as the football team is concerned.
The best players should be representing our country in all sports teams and that should be the bottom line. Making sure that players of all races get the opportunity to be good enough to represent their country surely does not rest with the relevant sporting bodies alone - should government not be 'penalizing' themselves for not creating the facilities needed to assist the 'previously disadvantaged' to reach their full potential in whichever sport they choose ?
The best players should be representing our country in all sports teams and that should be the bottom line. Making sure that players of all races get the opportunity to be good enough to represent their country surely does not rest with the relevant sporting bodies alone - should government not be 'penalizing' themselves for not creating the facilities needed to assist the 'previously disadvantaged' to reach their full potential in whichever sport they choose ?
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In an era of professional sport,the biggest problem that all codes of sport face is loss of spectators.
Losing sports teams are the surest way to see a decline at the turnstiles,as well as viewership.
Ali Bacher recently called for rugby,cricket and soccer to sit down together after SA's early exit from the T20 World Cup.He said there has to be something fundamentally wrong for our underachievement relative to the talent on offer.
Losing sports teams are the surest way to see a decline at the turnstiles,as well as viewership.
Ali Bacher recently called for rugby,cricket and soccer to sit down together after SA's early exit from the T20 World Cup.He said there has to be something fundamentally wrong for our underachievement relative to the talent on offer.
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9 years 1 month ago
This is interesting,although the data is 2 years old.
Analysis: Who watches cricket in South Africa?
The latest TV statistics show that Test cricket is the biggest TV draw card for South African viewers. Who’d have thunk it, with the empty seats every man and his dog like to harp on about? By ANTOINETTE MULLER.
You only have to spend a little bit of time on social media to notice how pessimistic people are about the interest in cricket in South Africa. In fact, we’d wager that at least one bright spark has responded to the Tweeted version of this article with a RT reply saying: “Nobody”. When very few people can be bothered to turn up to watch Jacques Kallis play in his final Test, you can’t blame that sort of thinking.
Every year, though, Repucom releases data pertaining to people who watch cricket in South Africa. From TV figures to a small sample size of respondents surveyed through their “SponsorLink” product.
The summarised data always makes for tasty reading. It offers an insight into the people who watch cricket, helping marketers and sponsors understand their audience better. It also helps the custodians of the game assess where their audience is lacking and how they can improve on it.
The data is by no means the be-all and end-all of analysis, especially since there were just 1,205 total respondents for this quarter’s survey for this quarter. Still, there were a fair few digestible bits in the profiling of cricket watchers across the country.
The most interesting data from the survey this year was that more women than men watch Twenty20 and one-day cricket on the free-to-air broadcaster. For T20s, 53% of respondents were women and 42% of total respondents were over 50. For one-day internationals, 51% were women and 38% were over 50. The simplest assumption is that retirees are tuning and tapping into cricket on the free-to-air service, most likely because there is little else to watch when cricket takes over regular programming. The small size of the polled group might also have an impact on skewing the demographics.
Test cricket paints a more balanced picture for the free-to-air broadcasting figures, with 47% being women. Again, though, over 42% are over 50 and just 13% are between the ages of 25-34.
When it comes to paid broadcasting, the men take up a far bigger percentage of the viewership. T20s broadcast on Supersport had a 56% male audience with the majority of the audience being over 35. ODIs had a 57% male audience, again with the largest chunk being in the 35 to over 50 bracket.
Test cricket also had a 57% male audience with over 50% being 34 to over 50. Just 19% of respondents were between 25 and 34. That is a worrying trend that was present throughout – the 25 - 34 year olds aren’t watching much cricket of any format on any broadcaster. There was not a single instance where that age group comprised more than 20% of the audience. Again, it is important to note that the sample size is quite small and perhaps is more indicative of the desire of a younger audience when it comes to answering surveys and polls.
Most encouragingly, though, and with far more reliable data, Rupecom showed that test cricket is attracting the biggest cricketing audience in South Africa overall. During the Tests against India and Australia over the summer, 3,915,880 people tuned in on average per Test. Those are absolute unique viewers and only take into account individuals watching at least 25 minutes consecutively.
The six one-day internationals over the summer got just 2,690,822 viewers per match while T20s came in last with just 1,514,927 viewers. The dreadful weather during the T20s against Australia could be one explanation for the low interest in the format and matches.
But the numbers for Test cricket are encouraging. Clearly the interest in Test cricket is there, as much is also evident whenever South Africa play at Newlands. Yet other grounds struggle to fill up. That interest is also reflected in the viewership with the western Cape having the highest number of viewers across the board for both free-to-air and paid broadcasts and across all formats.
A possible theory is that there just currently isn’t a culture of watching cricket at stadiums in South Africa. Why this has dissolved or why it’s not being encouraged is debatable, but the interest certainly is there to be tapped into. When people are asked what is the biggest factor in making them go to a live sporting event, the answer is likely to be: “The vibe”.
It is hard to create a vibe at a ground where nobody bothers to show up, so encouraging more people to go to the stadiums outside of Cape Town should be something that CSA looks into.
Furthermore, international cricket also out-performed international rugby with 14 million unique viewers compared to 13 million, but came up short against soccer’s 19 million unique audience.
The interest in domestic cricket remains limited with 125,059 average unique viewers for the Momentum One Day Cup and 315,497 on average for the Ram Slam T20. Overall, the MODC had 1.16 million unique viewers, down 10% from last year. That could be explained by many midweek starts which often doesn't entice viewers to tune into cricket after work.
The T20 competition had 1.76 million unique viewers in total with a peak audience of 411,169 for the final between the Cobras and the Dolphins in February, proving that with enough marketing, quality cricket and when played at the right time, eyeballs will be drawn to watch local talent.
Although the stats for the one-day competition are disappointing, it might speak more about the general feeling towards one-day cricket. While it remains an important format, it is becoming more difficult to watch. With a World Cup coming up next year, though, these figures will most likely receive an additional boost this year as armchair selectors try to pick their best XI for the trip to Australia and New Zealand.
Overall, the numbers are encouraging, both for CSA and the brands who back them. Considering the boardroom politics the sporting body has had to contend with over the last few years, cricket fans clearly haven’t lost too much faith and can separate what happens in suits to the performances on the field. The most important thing now is to find a way to turn that interest into physical bums on seats and encourage the next generation of fans to make it part of life instead of just a passive pastime. DM
Analysis: Who watches cricket in South Africa?
The latest TV statistics show that Test cricket is the biggest TV draw card for South African viewers. Who’d have thunk it, with the empty seats every man and his dog like to harp on about? By ANTOINETTE MULLER.
You only have to spend a little bit of time on social media to notice how pessimistic people are about the interest in cricket in South Africa. In fact, we’d wager that at least one bright spark has responded to the Tweeted version of this article with a RT reply saying: “Nobody”. When very few people can be bothered to turn up to watch Jacques Kallis play in his final Test, you can’t blame that sort of thinking.
Every year, though, Repucom releases data pertaining to people who watch cricket in South Africa. From TV figures to a small sample size of respondents surveyed through their “SponsorLink” product.
The summarised data always makes for tasty reading. It offers an insight into the people who watch cricket, helping marketers and sponsors understand their audience better. It also helps the custodians of the game assess where their audience is lacking and how they can improve on it.
The data is by no means the be-all and end-all of analysis, especially since there were just 1,205 total respondents for this quarter’s survey for this quarter. Still, there were a fair few digestible bits in the profiling of cricket watchers across the country.
The most interesting data from the survey this year was that more women than men watch Twenty20 and one-day cricket on the free-to-air broadcaster. For T20s, 53% of respondents were women and 42% of total respondents were over 50. For one-day internationals, 51% were women and 38% were over 50. The simplest assumption is that retirees are tuning and tapping into cricket on the free-to-air service, most likely because there is little else to watch when cricket takes over regular programming. The small size of the polled group might also have an impact on skewing the demographics.
Test cricket paints a more balanced picture for the free-to-air broadcasting figures, with 47% being women. Again, though, over 42% are over 50 and just 13% are between the ages of 25-34.
When it comes to paid broadcasting, the men take up a far bigger percentage of the viewership. T20s broadcast on Supersport had a 56% male audience with the majority of the audience being over 35. ODIs had a 57% male audience, again with the largest chunk being in the 35 to over 50 bracket.
Test cricket also had a 57% male audience with over 50% being 34 to over 50. Just 19% of respondents were between 25 and 34. That is a worrying trend that was present throughout – the 25 - 34 year olds aren’t watching much cricket of any format on any broadcaster. There was not a single instance where that age group comprised more than 20% of the audience. Again, it is important to note that the sample size is quite small and perhaps is more indicative of the desire of a younger audience when it comes to answering surveys and polls.
Most encouragingly, though, and with far more reliable data, Rupecom showed that test cricket is attracting the biggest cricketing audience in South Africa overall. During the Tests against India and Australia over the summer, 3,915,880 people tuned in on average per Test. Those are absolute unique viewers and only take into account individuals watching at least 25 minutes consecutively.
The six one-day internationals over the summer got just 2,690,822 viewers per match while T20s came in last with just 1,514,927 viewers. The dreadful weather during the T20s against Australia could be one explanation for the low interest in the format and matches.
But the numbers for Test cricket are encouraging. Clearly the interest in Test cricket is there, as much is also evident whenever South Africa play at Newlands. Yet other grounds struggle to fill up. That interest is also reflected in the viewership with the western Cape having the highest number of viewers across the board for both free-to-air and paid broadcasts and across all formats.
A possible theory is that there just currently isn’t a culture of watching cricket at stadiums in South Africa. Why this has dissolved or why it’s not being encouraged is debatable, but the interest certainly is there to be tapped into. When people are asked what is the biggest factor in making them go to a live sporting event, the answer is likely to be: “The vibe”.
It is hard to create a vibe at a ground where nobody bothers to show up, so encouraging more people to go to the stadiums outside of Cape Town should be something that CSA looks into.
Furthermore, international cricket also out-performed international rugby with 14 million unique viewers compared to 13 million, but came up short against soccer’s 19 million unique audience.
The interest in domestic cricket remains limited with 125,059 average unique viewers for the Momentum One Day Cup and 315,497 on average for the Ram Slam T20. Overall, the MODC had 1.16 million unique viewers, down 10% from last year. That could be explained by many midweek starts which often doesn't entice viewers to tune into cricket after work.
The T20 competition had 1.76 million unique viewers in total with a peak audience of 411,169 for the final between the Cobras and the Dolphins in February, proving that with enough marketing, quality cricket and when played at the right time, eyeballs will be drawn to watch local talent.
Although the stats for the one-day competition are disappointing, it might speak more about the general feeling towards one-day cricket. While it remains an important format, it is becoming more difficult to watch. With a World Cup coming up next year, though, these figures will most likely receive an additional boost this year as armchair selectors try to pick their best XI for the trip to Australia and New Zealand.
Overall, the numbers are encouraging, both for CSA and the brands who back them. Considering the boardroom politics the sporting body has had to contend with over the last few years, cricket fans clearly haven’t lost too much faith and can separate what happens in suits to the performances on the field. The most important thing now is to find a way to turn that interest into physical bums on seats and encourage the next generation of fans to make it part of life instead of just a passive pastime. DM
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9 years 1 month ago
This article is when SA is number 1 in Test cricket.
We are currently number 3.
We are currently number 3.
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9 years 1 month ago
Who has wasted the thousands of potential talents lying idle in the townships and villages? ABSA? Sunfoil? SAB? ANC?
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This fucking pricks latest : The Transformation Rapport will implement all measures. This includes spectator numbers. Too many dumb Boers still attending rugby matches. Doubling ticket prices for them. WTF ? How racist is this ? :evil: :evil:
Is this not tantamount to hate speech ?
Is this not tantamount to hate speech ?
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We live in a country with the warmest most wonderful people on earth, the best weather and quite affordable when compared to most developed countries yet politicians insist on creating misery, distrust, animosity and division.
Time to get rid of the real enemy and vote the whole lot out and replace them with people who care about the entire population and our and our kids economic future.
Why can people not just work together? We all want the same thing for us and our kids.
Time to get rid of the real enemy and vote the whole lot out and replace them with people who care about the entire population and our and our kids economic future.
Why can people not just work together? We all want the same thing for us and our kids.
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The resolutions will, undoubtedly, be unacceptable to most of the international sporting community. The regulations issued by almost every international sporting body prohibit any form of racial discrimination and government interference in sport:
The International Olympic Committee’sOlympic Charter (in force since 3 September 2013) forbids any form of racial discrimination. The Charter’s Fundamental Principles of Olympism specifically provide that "any form of discrimination with regard to a country or a person on grounds of race, religion, politics, gender or otherwise is incompatible with belonging to the Olympic Movement" and "Belonging to the Olympic Movement requires compliance with the Olympic Charter and recognition by the IOC";
South Africa’s membership to the Commonwealth also makes it subject to the rules as provided for in the Constitution of the Commonwealth Games Federation. Here, Article 7 of that Constitution - with regard to discrimination - expressly provides that "for the Commonwealth Games and generally in respect of all activities of the Federation and events under its control, there shall be no discrimination against any country or person on any grounds whatsoever, including race, colour, gender, religion or politics".
The International Cricket Council (ICC - of which South Africa is a member) condemns racism of any form in its Anti-Racism Policy and section 6 (a) and (b) of that policy state that "the ICC and all of its Members should:
(a) Not at any time offend, insult, humiliate, intimidate, threaten, disparage, vilify or unlawfully discriminate between persons based on their race, religion, culture, colour, descent, and/or national or ethnic origin;
(b) Adopt appropriate policies that it is clear to all employees, officials, commercial partners and other participants and stakeholders that inappropriate Racist Conduct (including in any public statements) will not be tolerated by the ICC or by the Member";
The International Rugby Board (IRB) prohibits discrimination of any kind in the game through By-Law 3(f) that expressly lists one of the functions of the IRB to be the prevention of discrimination of any kind against a country, private person or groups of people on account of their ethnic origin, gender, language, politics, religion or any other reason.
Imposing racial quotas in South African football will also not be reconcilable with Article 3 of FIFA’s Statutes (in which the international football regulatory body subscribes to non-racism): "Discrimination of any kind against a Country, private person or group of people on account of race, skin colour, ethnic, national or social origin, gender, language, religion, political opinion or any other opinion, wealth, birth or any other status, sexual orientation or any other reason is strictly prohibited and punishable by suspension or expulsion".
These resolutions and the proposed 60% quotas are at odds with South Africa’s Constitution and the core values of equality, human rights and non-racialism it embodies. Section 9(4) of the Constitution also prohibits unfair discrimination on grounds of inter alia race and ethnic origin.
The resolutions are also unlawful because any move to implement racial quotas would contravene the Employment Equity Act 55 of 1998. The Act authorises numerical targets, but specifically prohibits quotas. Players and other athletes usually have contracts with unions or companies and are as a result undoubtedly employees and this makes the Employment Equity Act applicable to them.
The International Olympic Committee’sOlympic Charter (in force since 3 September 2013) forbids any form of racial discrimination. The Charter’s Fundamental Principles of Olympism specifically provide that "any form of discrimination with regard to a country or a person on grounds of race, religion, politics, gender or otherwise is incompatible with belonging to the Olympic Movement" and "Belonging to the Olympic Movement requires compliance with the Olympic Charter and recognition by the IOC";
South Africa’s membership to the Commonwealth also makes it subject to the rules as provided for in the Constitution of the Commonwealth Games Federation. Here, Article 7 of that Constitution - with regard to discrimination - expressly provides that "for the Commonwealth Games and generally in respect of all activities of the Federation and events under its control, there shall be no discrimination against any country or person on any grounds whatsoever, including race, colour, gender, religion or politics".
The International Cricket Council (ICC - of which South Africa is a member) condemns racism of any form in its Anti-Racism Policy and section 6 (a) and (b) of that policy state that "the ICC and all of its Members should:
(a) Not at any time offend, insult, humiliate, intimidate, threaten, disparage, vilify or unlawfully discriminate between persons based on their race, religion, culture, colour, descent, and/or national or ethnic origin;
(b) Adopt appropriate policies that it is clear to all employees, officials, commercial partners and other participants and stakeholders that inappropriate Racist Conduct (including in any public statements) will not be tolerated by the ICC or by the Member";
The International Rugby Board (IRB) prohibits discrimination of any kind in the game through By-Law 3(f) that expressly lists one of the functions of the IRB to be the prevention of discrimination of any kind against a country, private person or groups of people on account of their ethnic origin, gender, language, politics, religion or any other reason.
Imposing racial quotas in South African football will also not be reconcilable with Article 3 of FIFA’s Statutes (in which the international football regulatory body subscribes to non-racism): "Discrimination of any kind against a Country, private person or group of people on account of race, skin colour, ethnic, national or social origin, gender, language, religion, political opinion or any other opinion, wealth, birth or any other status, sexual orientation or any other reason is strictly prohibited and punishable by suspension or expulsion".
These resolutions and the proposed 60% quotas are at odds with South Africa’s Constitution and the core values of equality, human rights and non-racialism it embodies. Section 9(4) of the Constitution also prohibits unfair discrimination on grounds of inter alia race and ethnic origin.
The resolutions are also unlawful because any move to implement racial quotas would contravene the Employment Equity Act 55 of 1998. The Act authorises numerical targets, but specifically prohibits quotas. Players and other athletes usually have contracts with unions or companies and are as a result undoubtedly employees and this makes the Employment Equity Act applicable to them.
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