Vaal Tuesday

Englander wrote: Belinsky... hugely disappointing

@ Colin Dav, some excellent call today bud, hope it was a very profitable day for you

Thanks mate under your knowledgable guidance

Massive treble landed on Conna Marra.

Was feeling aggrieved after missing out on the bi pot but that makes up for it.

bloody hell.. we TIP the PA on the small perm for R23040 we win R283516.80 and on the large perm we TIP the PA x 360 times for R2,126,376.00...

We Tip the P6 win x 3 = R2,337 759.60 for R164,640 and the Bipot for R25200,00 it pays R328,044.00 and the JP for R3,920 it pays R17713,50

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@ Loopy
bloody hell.. we TIP the PA on the small perm for R23040 we win R283516.80 and on the large perm we TIP the PA x 360 times for R2,126,376.00...

Loopy... lets be reasonable here...
You know, I know and everyone one else on this forum does... you cannot pick up a PA payment for R2m when the net pool is 700k.
Also , If your small perm was 23k what was the value of the big one. Surely no one in their right mind would be playing such large amounts.
So a realistic comparison would be appreciated.

Deeno,

The numbers are picked by the software based on the probability of a large payout on numbers qualifying for rules set, some days the perms are very large like today and that would equate to a very probable high payout and it's the return that matters, ROI, not the size of the FULL perm since you can take a mere 1 % or less. You also take the PA on the bookies not the Tote so it does not affect the tote payout,

Today it turned out A) R23k towards return R283k, yesterday R3240.00 to catch R26k but in both scenarios taking a PA on level stakes say for R300.00 would yield similar returns taking 1% of PA A or 10 % of PA B for the same level stakes exposure od R300.00

I think it is a mindshift between gambling and probability and the risk factor you are comfortable with plays a part vs. the reward you are expecting...but fact is if I can still return a 10/1 plus return on a 1% of a large perm that is much rather ny choice than a nett 100% loss on a small perm being 1 out...

Take our P6 example today for instance, small perm R14400-00 went 1 out but large perm for R164000 caught it 3 times R2,3million. In both Scenarious you could have spent say R1640,00... In thw small PA you loose R1640-00 on the large PA 1% taken yields a returb of R23,000.

Hope this explains,

Sean

@Loopy
In thw small PA you loose R1640-00 on the large PA 1% taken yields a returb of R23,000.
Wrong ... 1% will only yield you R7200.00 as per the TAB payout.


IGNORE the above Loopy . I was referring to the P6.

Deeno,

If that is the case in this scenario that I cannot benefit winning it 3 times since the total pool is taken into consideration fair enough I for one would still much rather take a winning bet of R7200,00 reflected in my account above a losing bet of R1640.00.00...I suppose you would too...however taking the same scenario where supposedly our small PA went out and did not pay the 12.31/1 odds it did I would still much rather take the large 6.03 PA payout than a losing bet IF the snall perm did miss...

Loopy u and your software are unbelievable. I long for the day yet I'm not that stupid to play a 2.3 mill perm. The majority of people you are trying to appeal to are people looking for perms between 1 and say 400 rand. Who in their right mind including yourself would pay 2300 rand for 1% of a pick 6.??? If loopy logic was such a success you would not see it necessary to advertise like you do. You are appealing to the wrong crowd. Together as a team on abc we like to win/lose our money playing horses. Not monopoly. I'm sorry if I offend you however these are my opinions. I will never take a 2.3 mill pick 6 or a 23k pa. Congrats on tipping your clients winners, you are a machine.

@Loopy Logic...

I think it would be better if you posted that PA returned 10/1 or P6 returned 3/1 so that punter can work out what return would be based on their specific outlay...as some-one else has posted, unlikely that some-one will take a R23000 PA so basing returns on those outlays skews the picture immensely...

Communication is not about the message but how the receiver of the message interprets it...

All the best to you and your followers...

Like I stated before....mindshift..probabilities vs Risk/ Reward and for thise that does not take that mindshift, each to their own & thank you for your contribution...to most of those probables.

Colin I for 1 would much rather play a 0,1% PA that is a winning ticket on most days ( for R230.00) with a great ROI than a losing ticket taking chances along the way.

That is why we moved to a fully automated exotic selection process...no human intervention as to which numbers qualify, pure a continual improvement on the rules that picks the qualifying numbers...

Each to their own though and by all means totally agree it's not for all since most are gamblers and a gambling nature likes taking more risk...inevatibly though being honest with yourself eventually gets caught out.