Argie V Bok

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Meyer only says that to save himself from a media bashing. If he loves SA Rugby as much as says then he should do the right thing and resign, today. The Aussies and the Kiwis will rip us a new arse hole if we continue to play the Bulls way. As for winning the world cup, well there is no harm in dreaming because that's all it is, a dream.

Last 2 weeks have been very poor. There are serious problems with our scrum. Time to retire both Du plessis. Substitutes made all the difference, except Bakkies who came on and conceded needless penalty. Hoogard is the better scrummie. Strauss played really well. Not a fan of his but much better than Bismark. New centre De Allende looked really sharp.

Karma wrote: That Has to be the single most pathetic performance I have witnessed for ages. The things I do not understand, Meyer is praising his team for great composure and the fight to come back from the seemingly dead, my question is why on earth were we there in the 1st place... Arg dominated us in every facet of the game, other than penalties conceded. I would and could start a player analysis, but unfortunately my blood pressure might cause health issues..if Marcel Coetzee hasn't earned his starting position now , I give up...

You could'nt have said it better,it was a POOR PERFORMANCE
Heyneke is an ARSEHOLE and deserves the BOOT :blush:

Craig, you keep on with Bambi, he will never play for the boks again, not with the likes of Pollard,Steyn and Goosen. He is not in the same class sorry. Fine for you Sharks supporters not the boks.
Back to more important issues and what bothers me is HM's game plan, selections etc we will never amount to much under him. I cant see us being world champions again. He is childishly primitive with his approach and anything from a modern up to date world class coach.

neigh wrote: Craig, you keep on with Bambi, he will never play for the boks again, not with the likes of Pollard,Steyn and Goosen. He is not in the same class sorry. Fine for you Sharks supporters not the boks.
Back to more important issues and what bothers me is HM's game plan, selections etc we will never amount to much under him. I cant see us being world champions again. He is childishly primitive with his approach and anything from a modern up to date world class coach.

I don't agree with the lambic comments.. If you think back to super rugby, in which all South African teams struggled to get the 4 try bonus point... Beginning of the season before he got injured Lambie orchestrated if I am not mistaken 2/3 bonus points. Once again if I am not mistaken, that was more than any other locally playing fly half did for the entire season. He is one of the most consistent players we have in the country,he seldom has a bad game. Pollard does look a great prospect for the future, however I do feel he needs to get one more season in playing super rugby to get dis speed up to scratch. In both games against the argies, there was times when he was caught holding onto the ball a split second to long. Give him one more season playing the chiefs/saders/waratahs and he should develope into a machine.

Unfortunately Juan Smit (who is a hero of the springbok badge) was just not up to scratch. Maybe he has lost an ounce of pace, or he has softened up a bit,bit he was not his old battering ram self of the past. Coetzee proved this, as the game suddenly changed when he came on. I am also worried about Hendricks defensive capabilities. Yes he is a decent finisher, but I believe the all blacks and wallabies are going to target him with there big boys running at him. Mavovo is , stronger on defense, and can also cover for le roux, when le roux goes on his attacking ventures, as mavovo has experience at the fullback position.

I watched the entire match last night and my blood pressure has only now come down...I really should have gone to bed rather than watching us play as we did...we try to out-muscle teams and then we kick the ball away and then we cannot defend...we can only kick our way to wins if we stop defending so poorly...

Jake White mentioned that year 3 is always the difficult year...remember him being called back from tour in England to answer to execs and was also the year in which Aus beat us 49-NIL...but he had a plan and stuck to it because it was based on the premise that defences win you World Cups and to defend you have to be the fittest on the park...

I remember going to a breakfast hosted by Discovery about a year and a bit before the World Cup and Jake White outlined all the things they were doing in preparation and when I got hoem that evening, I told the wife: "We are going to win the World Cup"...there doesn;t seem to be that clarity of vision with HM...only a over-reliance on Bulls (and some Sharks) players in the hope that they come good and return the form from 1-2 years ago...

I don't have the same confidence going into the next World Cup unless we sort out the scrumming and defence...