Turffontein Sunday 25/5/14

Hibs, I am still thinking about how to structure it. There is no doubt in my mind that they are hell bent on getting the 6 points back, which we forced them to remove. In so doing, they are killing the consistent ones.

This obsession of theirs is just teaching us to give horses runs. Under this mindset of theirs, we will either have to go for the win or run poorly, in order for the horses to stay competitive. The Trainers and horses which are benefitting at present are the ones which run as often as possible, as poorly as possible. The good, consistent and reliable ones are being punished severely.

And that is bad for Racing.

louisg Wrote:

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> Hibs, I am still thinking about how to structure
> it. There is no doubt in my mind that they are
> hell bent on getting the 6 points back, which we
> forced them to remove. In so doing, they are
> killing the consistent ones.
>
> This obsession of theirs is just teaching us to
> give horses runs. Under this mindset of theirs, we
> will either have to go for the win or run poorly,
> in order for the horses to stay competitive. The
> Trainers and horses which are benefitting at
> present are the ones which run as often as
> possible, as poorly as possible. The good,
> consistent and reliable ones are being punished
> severely.
>
> And that is bad for Racing.

Watch they don't give u 6points just for posting this.lol.

MR is bad for racing.....

The Madji Wrote:

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> MR is bad for racing.....


I disagree MR is the only way - BUT the way that MR is applied in SA needs improvement (tu)

Frodo 100% correct. The only relief for the majority is through punishing the good and consistent. This is the mindset. This is how they apply MR. I have some really good examples, which show the mindset. Using same MR and same principles and same drag effect calculations, the proper application will result in a balance.

There is no handicapping going on, only the selection of the line horse.... which they carefully choose, in order to punish those in front of the line horse.

Horses do not come down nearly fast enough, but shoot up, go through the divisions rapidly, sometimes without winning a race.

louisg Wrote:

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> We all grateful Negev win !

Not me!!!! lol lost the full house on a patent with Ilha Bela and Master Sabina (10s) and Mywayorthehighway (7s), your horses costing me plenty recently Louis!! lol but another (begrudging lol) well done to you!

@lg.... what about lumping precocious juveniles with ratings applied along the same line as older horses? This cannot be correct in my mind as a juvenile winning a grade 1 against juveniles should not and cannot be assesed the same. That horse is then screwed for 18 months until dropping to a realistic MR as an older horse. What about the lack of confidence to the horse, and the potential for sourness....

Sylvester Wrote:

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> Featherfoot was really impressive last time. Hope
> it steps up.
>
> and hope whistle stop puts in a good effort.


Wrong date right horse.

Sylvester Wrote:

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> Sylvester Wrote:
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> > Featherfoot was really impressive last time.
> Hope
> > it steps up.
> >
> > and hope whistle stop puts in a good effort.
>
>
> Wrong date right horse.

Good win by Featherfoot and good for a small yard too. Also, well placed by Devin. You won't believe that 3 Trainers standing around me in weighing room after the race, were agreed that Devin Little had stuffed up the rating of Featherfoot now.... They weren't even aware of the penalty limit in plate races.... No wonder progress is slow and difficult to achieve in racing....

louisg Wrote:

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> Good win by Featherfoot and good for a small yard
> too. Also, well placed by Devin. You won't believe
> that 3 Trainers standing around me in weighing
> room after the race, were agreed that Devin Little
> had stuffed up the rating of Featherfoot now....
> They weren't even aware of the penalty limit in
> plate races.... No wonder progress is slow and
> difficult to achieve in racing....


So is it the handicapper's fault that the trainers don't know their business ?

Frodo Wrote:

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> louisg Wrote:
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> > Good win by Featherfoot and good for a small
> yard
> > too. Also, well placed by Devin. You won't
> believe
> > that 3 Trainers standing around me in weighing
> > room after the race, were agreed that Devin
> Little
> > had stuffed up the rating of Featherfoot
> now....
> > They weren't even aware of the penalty limit in
> > plate races.... No wonder progress is slow and
> > difficult to achieve in racing....
>
>
> So is it the handicapper's fault that the trainers
> don't know their business ?

@ LOL....................and not really surprising!