Kenilworth 28/12/13

Barry Irwin Wrote:

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> Thanks.
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> Has Franny worn blinkers before?


her first time in blinkers as per formgrids and computaform

Am I way off the mark when I say that Hatt at no stage tried to give his horse the best possible chance to WIN that race?
Never pulled the stick, never smacked him on the shoulder or behind, in fact he hardly shook the reigns at him.

I don't mind horses being given a run but shouldn't the jocks try to obtain the best possible position?

Just a question.

Barry Irwin Wrote:

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> If a jockey agent said 99 percent sure that would
> equate to 50 percent in the secular world.
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> If a trainer said 99 percent sure that would be
> around 75 percent.
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> But for everybody else, 99 percent means 99
> percent.
>
> Thanks.


Barry i said 99% because im having to trust a formguide

Wonder how good Divine Jet would have been if he wasn't with kannemeyr stable who only know how to win with milers and stayers , Drier would make him a champion , but we will never know how good he really is

Blouperd Wrote:

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> Wonder how good Divine Jet would have been if he
> wasn't with kannemeyr stable who only know how to
> win with milers and stayers , Drier would make him
> a champion , but we will never know how good he
> really is


I think that is a little unfair. That horse has been plagued with problems from the onset of his career, not only physical but controversial as well.....

Kannemeyer is a top trainer.

Jackson never tried to win. If he was pushed from 200 out, would not have been a race. I was on Divine Jet, so I am not biased. Maybe part of the strategy to get Jackson at better weights in bigger races? Maybe I am to unintelligent to figure this one out

yes Tommy , but did kannemeyr ever had a champion sprinter ?? this horse have everything to be just that , just wrong trainer

Blouperd Wrote:

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> yes Tommy , but did kannemeyr ever had a champion
> sprinter ?? this horse have everything to be just
> that , just wrong trainer


Blou, did you actually watch the horse move to the start? He was short (like he normally is) and is just not moving freely. If a horse is unsound there is very little a trainer can do with it.

I'm sure Kannemeyer has had a good sprinter, somewhere down the line.

Blouperd Wrote:

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> Ziets killing it today , made africa blue and
> divine jet his best bets on both cards , well done
> -D
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> copied his from his profile :
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> BOOOOOOOOOOOOOM ....ONE OF THE 2 BEST BETS AFRICA
> BLUE WIN WITH 10/1 ON OFFER , COTTON CANDY WON
> ALREADY 28/10 AND 28/1 LESSFLASHMORECASH RAN 4TH
> PLACE , NOW A FEW RACES TO GO...... LOOK LIKE A
> BIG MASSIVE DAY IN PROGRESS
>
> SA Horse racing tips- Zietsman Oosthuizen
> kENILWORTH RACE 1 - 6 COTTON CANDY 28/10 WIN RACE
> 2 - 5 LESSFLASHMORECASH 28/1 28/10 W/P 4PLACES
> RACE 4 - 11 AFRICA BLUE 6/1 9/10 W/P ****** RACE 5
> - 3 ACE ANTONIUS 7/1 6/10 W/P RACE 6 - 2 DIVINE
> JET 11/10 WIN ******* RACE 7 - 8 VALDIVIA 11/1 2/1
> W/P TURFFONTEIN RACE 2 - 14 SHAKALAND 25/1 2/1 4
> PLACES RACE 4 - 4 DENNIS THE MENACE 36/10 7/10 W/P
> RACE 5 - 13 JOLLY GOOD SIR 11/1 18/10 4PLACES W/P
> RACE 8 - 7 ASH CLOUD 6/1 0.94 W/P TOP SELECTIONS
> AND GREAT VALUE SOME OF THEM Pick 6 HORSE RACING >
> KENILWORTH Leg 1 : Race 4 [11, 12] Leg 2 : Race 5
> [1, 2, 3, 4, 5] Leg 3 : Race 6 [2, 3, 4, 8] Leg 4
> : Race 7 [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 8, 9, 11] Leg 5 : Race 8
> [2, 4, 7, 8, 10] Leg 6 : Race 9 [2, 4, 5, 8, 10,
> 12] Type: Banker Combinations: 9600 PLAY 1500
> Place Accumulator HORSE RACING > KENILWORTH Leg 1
> : Race 3 [3, 10] Leg 2 : Race 4 [10, 11] Leg 3 :
> Race 5 [5, 6] Leg 4 : Race 6 [2, 4] Leg 5 : Race 7
> [1, 2, 3, 8] Leg 6 : Race 8 [4, 5, 8, 10] Leg 7 :
> Race 9 [5, 9, 10] Type: Banker Combinations: 768
> PLAY 500 Pick 6 HORSE RACING > TURFFONTEIN Leg 1 :
> Race 4 [3, 4, 6, 7, 11] Leg 2 : Race 5 [2, 4, 8,
> 9, 12, 13, 16] Leg 3 : Race 6 [1, 4, 9, 10, 11,
> 12, 13, 15] Leg 4 : Race 7 [1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8,
> 12, 14] Leg 5 : Race 8 [2, 7, 10, 13] Leg 6 : Race
> 9 [1, 3, 4, 6, 16, 17] Type: Banker Combinations:
> 60480 PLAY 1500 Place Accumulator HORSE RACING >
> TURFFONTEIN Leg 1 : Race 3 [1, 6, 8, 11, 15] Leg 2
> : Race 4 [3, 4, 7, 11] Leg 3 : Race 5 [2, 13, 16]
> Leg 4 : Race 6 [4, 9, 10] Leg 5 : Race 7 [4, 12,
> 14] Leg 6 : Race 8 [2, 7, 13] Leg 7 : Race 9 [1,
> 16, 17] Type: Banker Combinations: 4860 PLAY 500


is anybody actually interested in this shit?

Tommy_Hotspur Wrote:

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> Blouperd Wrote:
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> > yes Tommy , but did kannemeyr ever had a
> champion
> > sprinter ?? this horse have everything to be
> just
> > that , just wrong trainer
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> Blou, did you actually watch the horse move to the
> start? He was short (like he normally is) and is
> just not moving freely. If a horse is unsound
> there is very little a trainer can do with it.
>
> I'm sure Kannemeyer has had a good sprinter,
> somewhere down the line.

If the horse is short not striding out
Why not scratch
Surely an experienced jock like Karl would pick that up?

KReddy Wrote:

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> Tommy_Hotspur Wrote:
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> > > yes Tommy , but did kannemeyr ever had a
> > champion
> > > sprinter ?? this horse have everything to be
> > just
> > > that , just wrong trainer
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> > Blou, did you actually watch the horse move to
> the
> > start? He was short (like he normally is) and
> is
> > just not moving freely. If a horse is unsound
> > there is very little a trainer can do with it.
> >
> > I'm sure Kannemeyer has had a good sprinter,
> > somewhere down the line.
>
> If the horse is short not striding out
> Why not scratch
> Surely an experienced jock like Karl would pick
> that up?

Best you ask the stipes, not me

Agra