Paying for tips

homepunt Wrote:

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> I have never paid for tips but do not understand
> all the moaning and bitching about people asking a
> fee for their service. I used to spend 50 to 60
> hours a week on studying the form,watching
> replays, creating speedratings,driving around
> trying to obtain a Computaform and then checking
> for errors in said publication.( At one stage they
> got their 400 to finish times wrong so
> consistently that you had to double check every
> result shown in Fotoform ). I gave up eventually
> and turned my attention to sports betting. The
> hunger for the racing game is so strong however
> that I am considering a comeback but I do not have
> the time or the desire for the schlepp involved.
> Am monitoring both Ziets and Loopy closely and
> will have no problem paying either or both of them
> for their services

BEST BET TIP TO THE PAYING CLIENTS
Race 2
Scarlet Berry 5/2 is an crazy price , the
horses that ran behind her on debut is
pathetic , the 5 that did run
subsequently ran 9 times and only 2 of
that 9 runs was less than 10 lengths
behind a maiden winner ...... she
needs to improve another 10 lengths
to be competitive if you ask me...... will
be surprise if she can run within 6
lenghs of the winner here .... best rated
and best handicapped with the appie
on is SHATTERED IMAGE , and a repeat
of her last start should see her win
here, distance will not be a
problem ,and de kock horse have
never raced on sand and is not well
handicapped
SHATTERED IMAGE 7/2 1.19(2 places)
BEST BET
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO­
OOOOOOOOOOM !!!!!!!!!!TAKE THAT
VALUE BET TIP TO THE PAYING CLIENTS
Race 3
Stroke one always like to find
something to beat her and my value
bet of the day comes in the form of
WOODROSE .....The 2 met before and
SO beat WR with a length over turfies
inside track when WR was drawn
widest of all , Woodrose penultimate
run on sand 1200m is the best rated of
all runners on both grass/sand and I
give it a huge chance but include FOR
YOUR EYES ONLY and SEATTLE RYTHM
in bigger perms
WOODROSE 7/1 12/10 w/p
WIN ALSO
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO­
OOOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!!!
DOUBLE PAYS 30/­
1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Eat that.......enough said

Top class, that why I pay with the profits

The best by a mile (tu)

Brilliant Zites...never doubted your greatness...
I dont pay for tips but thanks to Suleman (swinger r1 7/1) &Englender / THH (box exacta R87) why must I pay.....BOOOOOOOOOOM CHING CHING...FOR FREE ON ABC !!!

RCE2WIN Wrote:

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> Brilliant Zites...never doubted your greatness...
> I dont pay for tips but thanks to Suleman (swinger
> r1 7/1) &Englender / THH (box exacta R87) why must
> I pay.....BOOOOOOOOOOM CHING CHING...FOR FREE ON
> ABC !!!


also free Ablity Rating of Sporting Post who's first selections were 2-1-1 for the first three races

so the rest of the days tipping must have been kak then Blouperd as there are no whoops and joys coming out of your corner

chicken 'n chips Wrote:

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> so the rest of the days tipping must have been kak
> then Blouperd as there are no whoops and joys
> coming out of your corner


lol

Blouperd Wrote:

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> Why , must I shout out every tip? out of his 7
> tips , 4 winners and a place , hit the Jackpot and
> Pick 6 , did anybody do better? if so prove it
> <


well done my pal(tu)

i hardly play horses anymore just football bets now

For what it is worth, if some fellas are occasional or recreational punters making the odd buck with tipping services I am all for it...without losers the entire industry would fall apart anyway. The recreational punter is what makes it possible for the professionals to make a living from horse racing. My entire "working" income comes from horse racing, albeit being a retired bloke. I have worked endless hours at perfecting it and studying from the manipulation of odds to the speeds, sectionals, maiden winners etc etc. etc.. It also took me three years to develop a system that I can apply to the data of around 2000 races, ultimately to current racing

There will always be an important human element associated, but I give you my word, if you capture all the information of the last few years and run various filters on that you will end up with a massive strike rate. You can then delve deeper in to that and find a reason to eliminate 10% of the losers and so forth...typically like horses that have just won their maidens, of which only 10% will win their races even if favourites...Also that of the 75% of winners, are not favourites, are also of a different age and sex of the favourite, or that one never punts a rested horse, just leave the race if you like it. simple little things, yet there is even a reason behind all of the above... and all of this leads to being non-dependant on a tipster, on a bookie, on anybody but yourself, meaning that for the rest of your life you will have longevity, even when all the tipsters die! You have an average return of 150% on investment every week, truly risk free, for the rest of your life, perfectly capable of remaining under the radar by betting at one of the almost 300 bookies accepting bets across just Gauteng alone.

I for one can never provide anybody with my winning reasons all the time, and will never start a tipping service as I have spent thousands of hours developing software and studying trends or patterns. It is more important for me to rather prevent blokes from punting a loser, as they will be able to track my winning selections over time and eventually, just maybe discover my secret. Not that I don't want to help out as much I can as this forum alone provides me with many smiles and it is clear my fellow punters aren't my enemy. I find it very hard that blokes will continually hand out their winners free of charge. Perhaps to lure investors, but there is most certainly a hidden agenda...these are purely my views and if you tipping fellas are truly so keen on making everybody millionaires, I will apologise.

There exists a clear mechanism and method to win close to 90% of your straight bets, all the time, no bad runs. There exists a clear mechanism for identifying races to LEAVE. The key to becoming a winner and a professional is through discipline and, knowing not as much when to punt, but when not to. I will most certainly not be profitable if I punted every race.

Remember also that if you knew the combination of information that would consistently make you profitable and make it public on a local forum, you would kill the entire industry, or ensure your information gets banned or scrambled. To give you an example of the scrambling of information... TABGOLD used to correspond exactly to SP and OP prices of Teletrack and subsequently Formgrids...which made it possible for true trending and studies relating to that. Then it was picked up, and suddenly the prices got scrambled. Now Tabgold lacks behind or Teletrack quotes a different OP in the afternoon than the true TABGOLD OP, or Formgirids of the next morning. This means that you cannot reliably study trends and history of odds anymore as your sources hardly ever correspond. I made copious amounts of money on odds trending...until it got scrambled. Hollywood wouldn't even give you historic data or prices.

Lastly, perhaps there are still some good people in the world, much better than me...willing to risk their years of hard work and knowledge, and I really do not mean this against you fellas. Perhaps one of you blokes should then just rather warn the fellas about poor or fake tipsters and make your selections public so we can trend on it? I would gladly select your ponies if you show your wins and losses, calculated over time resulting in profit. I suppose if you pay for it...forget it?

Funny thing tipsters love to say is "a repeat of her last start will make her hard to beat" - Now if ever there was an arbitrary piece of info there you have it! If the Bulls start the first half against the Crusaders like they did against the Kings, they will be hard to beat...if. Sometimes it happens sometimes it doesn't. What exactly is a repeat of the last run anyway?..if it runs second like it did last week it will be first?

I prefer getting the raw data from a tipster and leaving the interpretation up to myself. That's why accurate ratings from a database that can be changed on request to fill certain paramaters (ie- trainer in the wet, breeding on sand etc) is a massive advantage.

Prof I gonna start my DB straight away but first I gotta learn some MYSQL. . .shyte then I gotta find some place to parse all the data from..... and then of course I must start working on filters. . .and of course build up a history . .h hell. Any good tipsters out there??
Just kidding but in all honesty for most this is a hobby and a sideline, albeit an expensive one.