Jooste 2012/13

mr hawaii Wrote:

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> and who trained the Gr 1's!!!

Ramsden and Soma??

Tara had 91 different starters for the season that raced 469 times for only 50 wins, how many more did she have that never raced?

Compare it to the Shams then the Shams done much better with the stock available !-D

I think it was Disraeli you said "lies damned lies and statistics"
All the BIG stables have horses that never race Perhaps someone can
post how many runners Woodruff had for the previous record
Might be an interesting STATISTIC

Though very controversial the Racing Manager must get some credit for the results

Think someone needs to do their homework, no discredit to the shams, yet, the shams do have two yards in two different training centers, PE and Kimberly, almost doubling their chances.
They have two barns in PE and numerous boxes in Kimberly, which I can only ASSUME is more than 36 stabled horses, (in both centres) at any given time....
Does it really matter how many horses have gone through the PE yard?
The Shams have done extremely well to have had 564 runners ( in two racing centers) for 61 winners!, but
Tara also has done well to have had 469 runners and 50 winners from a 1based yard of 36 horses....
Both trainers are out their to do there best at all times, it's not a matter of whom or who is better at the end of the day, rather that they are both trying to do their best!
No point in stealing a clients money if their horse cannot earn a stake cheque, rather be honest, tell the truth, and call it a day, suggesting another training centre, or , allowing the horse to try their hand at show jumping, eventing, dressage etc...
Not every thoroughbred it destined to win a race, yet alone be a champion, so my point is merely this:
Give credit to the trainers that have to make these thankless decisions every single day..

I just think both yards are fucking brilliant X(

ps gav i saw Tara was looking at wedding dresses on facebook ()

Gavinv Wrote:

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> Think someone needs to do their homework, no
> discredit to the shams, yet, the shams do have two
> yards in two different training centers, PE and
> Kimberly, almost doubling their chances.
> They have two barns in PE and numerous boxes in
> Kimberly, which I can only ASSUME is more than 36
> stabled horses, (in both centres) at any given
> time....
> Does it really matter how many horses have gone
> through the PE yard?
> The Shams have done extremely well to have had 564
> runners ( in two racing centers) for 61 winners!,
> but
> Tara also has done well to have had 469 runners
> and 50 winners from a 1based yard of 36
> horses....
> Both trainers are out their to do there best at
> all times, it's not a matter of whom or who is
> better at the end of the day, rather that they are
> both trying to do their best!
> No point in stealing a clients money if their
> horse cannot earn a stake cheque, rather be
> honest, tell the truth, and call it a day,
> suggesting another training centre, or , allowing
> the horse to try their hand at show jumping,
> eventing, dressage etc...
> Not every thoroughbred it destined to win a race,
> yet alone be a champion, so my point is merely
> this:
> Give credit to the trainers that have to make
> these thankless decisions every single day..


Well said Gavin, these ladies give their all to training horses, along with Yvette Bremner, they are certainly putting Female Trainers on the map:)-D to them for their collective sterling effort

Jeez you not serious, I had no idea, she told me she was going for a haircut...saw a lot of booklets stashed in her briefcase right enough, maybe she is going to propose to me

Sylvester Wrote:

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> 175 winners from 1239 runners. Main colors only
> 19 different trainers won for the owner
> Laing 48
> Charles Laird 30
> Ramdsen 26
> MDK 18
>
> 5 GRADE 1 WINNERS
>
> Marcus 54 wins
> 32 other jocks rode winners for the owner
>
> Wins per month
>
> AUGUST 19
> SEPTEMBER 13
> OCTOBER 10
> NOVEMBER 18
> DECEMBER 15
> JANUARY 18
> FEBRUARY 14
> MARCH 12
> APRIL 17
> MAY 17
> JUNE 13
> JULY 9 MTD
>
> PER CENTRE
> EASTERN CAPE 50
> WESTERN CAPE 41
> KZN 60
> GAUTENG 22


And here i thought 23 winners for the season was half decent!!!!(

WESTERN EXPLORER Wrote:

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> Sylvester Wrote:
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> > 175 winners from 1239 runners. Main colors only
> > 19 different trainers won for the owner
> > Laing 48
> > Charles Laird 30
> > Ramdsen 26
> > MDK 18
> >
> > 5 GRADE 1 WINNERS
> >
> > Marcus 54 wins
> > 32 other jocks rode winners for the owner
> >
> > Wins per month
> >
> > AUGUST 19
> > SEPTEMBER 13
> > OCTOBER 10
> > NOVEMBER 18
> > DECEMBER 15
> > JANUARY 18
> > FEBRUARY 14
> > MARCH 12
> > APRIL 17
> > MAY 17
> > JUNE 13
> > JULY 9 MTD
> >
> > PER CENTRE
> > EASTERN CAPE 50
> > WESTERN CAPE 41
> > KZN 60
> > GAUTENG 22
>
>
> And here i thought 23 winners for the season was
> half decent!!!!(


i`m setting 3 the target for this season ()

congrats WE,think Mentor had 30 odd and John must have double Figures aswell

Gavinv Wrote:

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> Jeez you not serious, I had no idea, she told me
> she was going for a haircut...saw a lot of
> booklets stashed in her briefcase right enough,
> maybe she is going to propose to me


well as long as she's not pulling a Simon Cowell on you...:

Sham's licence only from Nov---July
Well done to the lady trainers in PE