Turffontein 28/7/13

bayern Wrote:

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> Need the biggest effort from Fradd in the last,
> worth a tidy sum to me.

With you. Worth a full day recovery to me lol (tu)

Rambo Dancer Wrote:

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> Hey pirho, congrats! . The last time Olympia
> ran the jockey didn't listen, he was supposed to
> settle her like today. Apparently that jockey has
> a mind of his own! You never know what the result
> is going to be with him.
>
> I'd say go with roman warrior in the last, but
> don't know what style of riding doctor is going to
> choose today!


great call....(tu)

I've noticed that Mr Fradd is making something of a habit of being beaten on well-fancied favourites in the last race of meetings (td) Sure it is simply coincidence but I shall be weary of him in the last in future... we (I) do end up with some really stupid "superstitions"!! lol

Well judged ride by the appie, little unlucky (tu)

Green Pony Wrote:

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> ONE OF ONE win win
> ARKANSAS place 4th
> WILD ASH win 2nd
> TIGERS RETREAT place 3rd
> VETTEL podium 3rd
> CHIEFS win
>
> R25 x R500


miss as good as a mile
cant beat this fun for R25 anywhere

Flamingo and Kenilworth -not for me but Scottsville on Wednesday promises.

Rabadash a small place

X(

Englander Wrote:

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> I've noticed that Mr Fradd is making something of
> a habit of being beaten on well-fancied favourites
> in the last race of meetings (td) Sure it is
> simply coincidence but I shall be weary of him in
> the last in future... we (I) do end up with some
> really stupid "superstitions"!! lol
>
> Well judged ride by the appie, little unlucky (tu)

When you pick up a pattern...(tu) you may call it statistics....

Ben-Hur Wrote:

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> Flamingo and Kenilworth -not for me but
> Scottsville on Wednesday promises.
>
> Rabadash a small place
>
> X(

Hey Ben...we have to go with works for us....

I only stuck with KZN...all I knew....now I can pick losers in any centre.......You don't have to be an expert....just post your selections....

Englander Wrote:

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> I've noticed that Mr Fradd is making something of
> a habit of being beaten on well-fancied favourites
> in the last race of meetings (td) Sure it is
> simply coincidence but I shall be weary of him in
> the last in future... we (I) do end up with some
> really stupid "superstitions"!! lol
>
> Well judged ride by the appie, little unlucky (tu)

Hi Englander,

S Tarry and R Fradd are a lethal combination for the wrong reasons! Take Race 5 for example S Tarry had Tiger's Retreat, Selborne Supremacy and Perigrine each one with the better jockeys in the race. In my humble opinion the better horses in the race on paper. What happened.?.only ONE Tiger's Retreat finished in the top 3. I mean WTF :X

I will never support any of his horses or any horse R Fradd is onboard. Obviously I'm talking from my pocket and it comes from one to many disappointments. So till here and no further. I will live to bet another day but you guess right ..not on any horse connect with them.

We must understand that it may be others using the cover to blame jockeys and trainers...I am sure that Sean Tarry, Robbie Fradd and Chris Saunders are not manipulating the odds for a few rand....The bookmakers and any other unscrupulous characters can easily do this....and the thing is that we blame the legitimate bookmakers...and it is not them...they have to face us the public....they also just follow the market...and cover their bets....
Whenever there is a stable coupling, it makes it easy for speculation and therefore manipulation of the odds....

Don't tell anyone....but no.32 in the 50th...

I maybe cannot express myself successfully and it may be over simplified and this does not mean that all trainers and jockeys are exemplary and neither are any of us in our professions...but we are all used and abused by some clever and cunning manipulators...and they are not jockeys and trainers...

With regard to R Fradd... I actually noticed this first at the Vaal, these are his results from the last race at the meetings on the dates shown

25 July Black Poseiden 6th 5/2F (word out seemingly and quite heavily supported)
18 July Adam's Rock 6th 18/10F
11 July Gabronza (sand) 12th 2/1F (from 7/2)

and in the two meetings before that, on his final ride of the day but not the last of these meetings...

02/07 Brora 14th and last 7/2 2nd fav
27/06 Red Revenge (sand) 11th - 2nd last - 10/3

As I say, just coincidence I'm sure.

Englander...we bring our statistics to the fore...and others will make the connection...it will be interesting to see the changes...

Pirhobeta Wrote:

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> Englander...we bring our statistics to the
> fore...and others will make the connection...it
> will be interesting to see the changes...

lmao... well, the stats would indicate that, if you are the owner/trainer of a well fancied one in the last and want to win, don't stick Fradd on it <