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Re: Re: Final Field Gold Cup
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> Solo any reason why should we brass jackson
> He isnt my favourite horse and have made money
> backing against him
> But dont you think this race would suit him?
Just my personal opinion . I will be including him in my exotics but he wont be the centre of my play there . It will be second run after a layoff a lengthy one . He is classy though and could defy it . The race will tell . I have learnt my lesson with 2nd run after layoffs from a very knowledgeable poster here !
Its a matter of opinion anyway . I fancy Jet Jamboree , the manner in which he won the other day was impressive and the greyville track will suit him even better !
> Solotrama Wrote:
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> > thats two we can brass now Potala and Jackson
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> Solo any reason why should we brass jackson
> He isnt my favourite horse and have made money
> backing against him
> But dont you think this race would suit him?
Just my personal opinion . I will be including him in my exotics but he wont be the centre of my play there . It will be second run after a layoff a lengthy one . He is classy though and could defy it . The race will tell . I have learnt my lesson with 2nd run after layoffs from a very knowledgeable poster here !
Its a matter of opinion anyway . I fancy Jet Jamboree , the manner in which he won the other day was impressive and the greyville track will suit him even better !
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Re: Re: Final Fields Gold Cup Day
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before you make a comment like..."check my post on the 17th of July"....lol....I will agree with you on this one...a good friend of mine and I already helped ourselves to some of that 16/1

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Re: Re: Final Fields Gold Cup Day
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sorry guys...I was referring to Suleman's post on Canterbury Tale (tu)
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Re: Re: Final Fields Gold Cup Day
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2 7 LOUVRE 60.0 104 A A Forbes Duncan Howell
3 9 EUROPE TO AFRICA ( 60.0 102 A M Byleveld Vaughan Marsh
4 3 HAPPY ARCHER (AUS) 60.0 100 T A S Khumalo Sean Tarry
5 1 RAZZLE DAZZLE ROSE 60.0 99 A S Cormack Yogas Govender
6 6 CHECCETTI 60.0 97 BA S Veale Mike de Kock
7 4 BERRY BLAZE (IRE) 60.0 92 PA W Marwing Mike de Kock
8 5 JET BELLE 58.5 105 A G Wrogemann Robbie Sage
9 8 DYLAN'S PROMISE (A 58.5 95 A K Shea Charles Laird
1 2 THUNDER DANCE 60.0 106 A A Delpech Mike de Kock
2 7 LOUVRE 60.0 104 A A Forbes Duncan Howell
3 9 EUROPE TO AFRICA ( 60.0 102 A M Byleveld Vaughan Marsh
4 3 HAPPY ARCHER (AUS) 60.0 100 T A S Khumalo Sean Tarry
5 1 RAZZLE DAZZLE ROSE 60.0 99 A S Cormack Yogas Govender
6 6 CHECCETTI 60.0 97 BA S Veale Mike de Kock
7 4 BERRY BLAZE (IRE) 60.0 92 PA W Marwing Mike de Kock
8 5 JET BELLE 58.5 105 A G Wrogemann Robbie Sage
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1 3 BAH 58.0 0 a P Strydom Louis Goosen
2 10 DELAWARE BAY 58.0 0 A K Neisius Charles Laird
3 9 EXELERO 58.0 0 A M Byleveld Vaughan Marshall
4 8 FOREST INDIGO 58.0 0 A K Shea Alec Laird
5 1 FOREST PANTHER 58.0 0 BA R Fourie Justin Snaith
6 5 GONE BABY GONE 58.0 0 A K Teetan Mike de Kock
7 14 HEART OF A LION 58.0 0 A W Marwing Gavin van Zyl
8 11 JUDICIAL 58.0 0 S R Fradd Tyrone Zackey
9 15 KOCHKA 58.0 0 A G Hatt Alyson Wright
10 2 MERCADO 58.0 0 A B Fayd'Herbe Sean Tarry
11 6 PRINCIPLED MAN 58.0 0 A G Wrogemann Geoff Woodruff
12 13 SAGETATOR 58.0 0 A *K de Melo Gavin van Zyl
13 7 SUNDAY SUN 58.0 0 T A S Cormack Greg Ennion
14 4 UMGIYO (AUS) 58.0 0 A A Delpech Mike de Kock
15 12 WILLOW MAGIC (AUS) 58.0 0 A S Khumalo Sean Tarry
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2 10 DELAWARE BAY 58.0 0 A K Neisius Charles Laird
3 9 EXELERO 58.0 0 A M Byleveld Vaughan Marshall
4 8 FOREST INDIGO 58.0 0 A K Shea Alec Laird
5 1 FOREST PANTHER 58.0 0 BA R Fourie Justin Snaith
6 5 GONE BABY GONE 58.0 0 A K Teetan Mike de Kock
7 14 HEART OF A LION 58.0 0 A W Marwing Gavin van Zyl
8 11 JUDICIAL 58.0 0 S R Fradd Tyrone Zackey
9 15 KOCHKA 58.0 0 A G Hatt Alyson Wright
10 2 MERCADO 58.0 0 A B Fayd'Herbe Sean Tarry
11 6 PRINCIPLED MAN 58.0 0 A G Wrogemann Geoff Woodruff
12 13 SAGETATOR 58.0 0 A *K de Melo Gavin van Zyl
13 7 SUNDAY SUN 58.0 0 T A S Cormack Greg Ennion
14 4 UMGIYO (AUS) 58.0 0 A A Delpech Mike de Kock
15 12 WILLOW MAGIC (AUS) 58.0 0 A S Khumalo Sean Tarry
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Re: Re: Final Fields Gold Cup Day
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Thekwini Stakes
1 4 ADHIRA 58.0 0 A W Marwing Mike de Kock
2 3 ADMIRAL'S EYE 58.0 0 T A S Cormack Paul Lafferty
3 2 ALASCAN MAIDEN 58.0 0 A B Fayd'Herbe Mike Bass
4 5 ALONG CAME POLLY 58.0 0 A B Lerena Gavin van Zyl
5 11 ARCETRI PINK (AUS) 58.0 0 T A R Fradd Geoff Woodruff
6 6 ATHINA 58.0 0 A K Neisius Joe Soma
7 10 CELTIC LEGEND 58.0 0 A A Delpech Mike de Kock
8 1 FOR THE LADS 58.0 0 T A S Khumalo Sean Tarry
9 7 GLORIOUS MOMENT 58.0 0 A A Forbes Michael Mille
10 13 LADY CHESTNUT 58.0 0 A S Randolph Kumaran Naidoo
11 12 NISA'S LOVE 58.0 0 A K Shea Paul Lafferty
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2 3 ADMIRAL'S EYE 58.0 0 T A S Cormack Paul Lafferty
3 2 ALASCAN MAIDEN 58.0 0 A B Fayd'Herbe Mike Bass
4 5 ALONG CAME POLLY 58.0 0 A B Lerena Gavin van Zyl
5 11 ARCETRI PINK (AUS) 58.0 0 T A R Fradd Geoff Woodruff
6 6 ATHINA 58.0 0 A K Neisius Joe Soma
7 10 CELTIC LEGEND 58.0 0 A A Delpech Mike de Kock
8 1 FOR THE LADS 58.0 0 T A S Khumalo Sean Tarry
9 7 GLORIOUS MOMENT 58.0 0 A A Forbes Michael Mille
10 13 LADY CHESTNUT 58.0 0 A S Randolph Kumaran Naidoo
11 12 NISA'S LOVE 58.0 0 A K Shea Paul Lafferty
12 8 ROYALSECURITYBABY 58.0 0 BA G Hatt Kumaran Naidoo
13 9 TIGER QUEST (AUS) 58.0 0 A P Strydom Dominic Zaki
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Re: Re: Final Fields Gold Cup Day
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Posted by: Mike Moon on 18 Jul 2013 Filed Under: Other News
NICCI GARNER: WITH bookmakers betting 8-1 and better the field in the R1.25-million Gold Cup over 3200m on Saturday next week, backing the winner will be no easy feat.
The four joint favourites are topweight Seal, Kolkata, Knight To Remember and Patriotic Rebel.
The weights favour Gavin van Zyl-trained Seal but no horse has won this race with more than 57.5kg in the last decade and he will have his work cut out for him.
The showdown between South Africa’s two leading trainers, Mike de Kock and Sean Tarry, is already sparking ready debates amongst racing fans and at time of going to press yesterday less than R200,000 separated the Randjesfontein neighbours.
The battle is set to hit fever pitch at this meeting and both trainers have runners with outstanding chances in the big race.
Tarry’s three-horse attack is spearheaded by Kolkata, winner of the Gold Vase on Durban July Day and a runner many will fancy to take the R781,250 first prize.
Tarry said yesterday: “He was given an eight-point penalty (the equivalent of 4kg or eight lengths over 3200m) but that is not way out. However, because of the concertinaed weights in the Gold Cup, he is not the best-weighted runner in the race.
“He is coming to hand at the right time but in this big field, he will need luck in running.”
Tarry’s other two runners, Gold Onyx (14-1) and E-Jet (16-1), will be travelling beyond 2200m for the first time but he believes they will stay. “I wouldn’t be running them otherwise,” he said.
De Kock has two lightly weighted horses in Patrotic Rebel, who is also trading at 8-1, and 16-1 shot Canterbury Tale.
Patriotic Rebel is another horse who will be travelling over this kind of distance for the first time, but with Anthony Delpech in the irons, looks the stable elect.
Canterbury Tale finished a long way behind Kolkata in the Gold Vase, but stopped late that day and there must have been something amiss with the son of Greys Inn. He won the Grade 2 Gold Bowl over 3200m at Turffontein on Champions Day and a better effort has to be expected.
The other horse quoted at 8-1 is Knight To Remember, who finished third behind Tarry-trained stablemates Aslan and Kolkata in the 2011 Gold Cup. He confirmed he was back to his best in the Gold Vase, when running on strongly for second, 0.75 lengths behind Kolkata (0.5kg better off). On that run there should not be much separating them again.
Betting World’s Gold Cup betting: 8-1 KNIGHT TO REMEMBER, KOLKATA, PATRIOTIC REBEL, SEAL; 10-1 SIL VOUS PLAIT, BLAKE; 14-1 SHOGUNNAR, GOLD ONYX; 16-1 E JET, CANTERBURY TALE, RIVER CROSSING; 20-1 AND UPWARDS OTHERS.
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Posted by: Mike Moon on 18 Jul 2013 Filed Under: Other News
NICCI GARNER: WITH bookmakers betting 8-1 and better the field in the R1.25-million Gold Cup over 3200m on Saturday next week, backing the winner will be no easy feat.
The four joint favourites are topweight Seal, Kolkata, Knight To Remember and Patriotic Rebel.
The weights favour Gavin van Zyl-trained Seal but no horse has won this race with more than 57.5kg in the last decade and he will have his work cut out for him.
The showdown between South Africa’s two leading trainers, Mike de Kock and Sean Tarry, is already sparking ready debates amongst racing fans and at time of going to press yesterday less than R200,000 separated the Randjesfontein neighbours.
The battle is set to hit fever pitch at this meeting and both trainers have runners with outstanding chances in the big race.
Tarry’s three-horse attack is spearheaded by Kolkata, winner of the Gold Vase on Durban July Day and a runner many will fancy to take the R781,250 first prize.
Tarry said yesterday: “He was given an eight-point penalty (the equivalent of 4kg or eight lengths over 3200m) but that is not way out. However, because of the concertinaed weights in the Gold Cup, he is not the best-weighted runner in the race.
“He is coming to hand at the right time but in this big field, he will need luck in running.”
Tarry’s other two runners, Gold Onyx (14-1) and E-Jet (16-1), will be travelling beyond 2200m for the first time but he believes they will stay. “I wouldn’t be running them otherwise,” he said.
De Kock has two lightly weighted horses in Patrotic Rebel, who is also trading at 8-1, and 16-1 shot Canterbury Tale.
Patriotic Rebel is another horse who will be travelling over this kind of distance for the first time, but with Anthony Delpech in the irons, looks the stable elect.
Canterbury Tale finished a long way behind Kolkata in the Gold Vase, but stopped late that day and there must have been something amiss with the son of Greys Inn. He won the Grade 2 Gold Bowl over 3200m at Turffontein on Champions Day and a better effort has to be expected.
The other horse quoted at 8-1 is Knight To Remember, who finished third behind Tarry-trained stablemates Aslan and Kolkata in the 2011 Gold Cup. He confirmed he was back to his best in the Gold Vase, when running on strongly for second, 0.75 lengths behind Kolkata (0.5kg better off). On that run there should not be much separating them again.
Betting World’s Gold Cup betting: 8-1 KNIGHT TO REMEMBER, KOLKATA, PATRIOTIC REBEL, SEAL; 10-1 SIL VOUS PLAIT, BLAKE; 14-1 SHOGUNNAR, GOLD ONYX; 16-1 E JET, CANTERBURY TALE, RIVER CROSSING; 20-1 AND UPWARDS OTHERS.
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Re: Re: Final Field Gold Cup
11 years 10 months ago
E-Jet has been scratched from the Gold Cup. 16/1. No deduction with Hollywood.
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Re: Re: Final Field Gold Cup
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Thanks Dev....(tu) would not have affected the result....

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Re: Re: Final Fields Gold Cup Day
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Does anybody think SEAL has even half a chance
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Re: Re: Final Fields Gold Cup Day
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In my opinion Seal must be good enough to run in the first three... The stables don't know what went wrong on Durban July day, but they say ignore that run.
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