Any ideas how to make racing more attractive to the man on the street?
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12 years 4 weeks ago
so, having said that, the punters and industry service providers are not the problem. Its the operators. Lack of vision and knowledge in how to manage effective change so as to gear themselves towards a sustainable future. It is the operators' responsibility as they are the ones driving it and have the power to make that change.
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Re: Re: Any ideas how to make racing more attractive to the man on the street?
12 years 4 weeks ago
so yes, if you want to point fingers, here goes: NHRA, GC and Phum. get your act together.
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Re: Re: Any ideas how to make racing more attractive to the man on the street?
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Gman Wrote:
> what is the diffrence between a guy who put
> millions into the game
> and the guy on the street who bet a R10 a day
> everyday for the rest of his life!!!!!
Just make them feel both very special
Was it Frank Sinatra "You gotta treat a lady like a dame and a dame like a lady"
> what is the diffrence between a guy who put
> millions into the game
> and the guy on the street who bet a R10 a day
> everyday for the rest of his life!!!!!
Just make them feel both very special
Was it Frank Sinatra "You gotta treat a lady like a dame and a dame like a lady"
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Gman Wrote:
> what is the diffrence between a guy who put
> millions into the game
> and the guy on the street who bet a R10 a day
> everyday for the rest of his life!!!!!
R10 p/day x 365 days x 40 years = R 146 000
which makes it R 854 000 less than the man who puts in 1 million and R 1 854 000 less than the man who puts in 2 million.
Hope this helps.
> what is the diffrence between a guy who put
> millions into the game
> and the guy on the street who bet a R10 a day
> everyday for the rest of his life!!!!!
R10 p/day x 365 days x 40 years = R 146 000
which makes it R 854 000 less than the man who puts in 1 million and R 1 854 000 less than the man who puts in 2 million.
Hope this helps.
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- Don
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Re: Re: Any ideas how to make racing more attractive to the man on the street?
12 years 4 weeks ago
yes PL, BUT there are many more that put in the R10per day than there are that put in R1mill. Economies of scale....
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Re: Re: Any ideas how to make racing more attractive to the man on the street?
12 years 4 weeks ago
There are ex and present commentators getting paid massive salaries to promote racing these days
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Re: Re: Any ideas how to make racing more attractive to the man on the street?
12 years 4 weeks ago
transparency - feedback - integrity - clean up corruption
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Re: Re: Any ideas how to make racing more attractive to the man on the street?
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now THERE'S a big word....integrity
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Re: Re: Any ideas how to make racing more attractive to the man on the street?
12 years 4 weeks ago
gregbucks Wrote:
> Frodo Wrote:
>
>
> > Jack Dash Wrote:
> >
>
>
> >
> > > What is the point?
> > >
> > > Horse racing is like chess or stamp
> collection
> > or
> > > more like wine drinking. The people who want
> > it
> > > know who they are.
> > >
> > > People have interests in things that
> fascinate
> > > them, or satisfies some need. Racing is cool
> > > because it's strategy AND money, and exciting
> > once
> > > you get it. "We" shouldn't be that concerned
> > > about "the man in the street" because thats
> not
> > > something that will ever propel the sport
> > forward.
> > >
> > >
> > > "We" should be worried about treating the
> > existing
> > > fans the best we can. Stop losing the ones
> we
> > > have, because the entrance knowledge
> threshold
> > is
> > > very big. Racing can be very difficult for
> > > someone who has had no exposure from family
> or
> > > close friends or colleagues.
> > >
> > > There is really only one "we", the players
> and
> > the
> > > providers collectively are Horseracing. Best
> > the
> > > one group start treating the other better.
> > They
> > > think they are, but they aren't.
> >
> >
> > I agree 100% - imo start with transparency.
> >
> > In Gauteng 'rumours' abound that the Vaal
> > racecourse has been sold (signed, sealed and
> > delivered) and that a piece of ground near
> > Lanseria has been 'identified' to develop a new
> > 'racing village'; another 'rumour' doing the
> > rounds is that as the Vaal will be closed down,
> > Bloemfontein will be re-opened and the
> Kimberley
> > guys will be re-located to Bloem.
> >
> > Now is it too much to ask for the authorities
> to
> > come out and either deny these 'rumours' or
> > confirm them and make 'us' aware of what is
> being
> > planned for the future?
> >
> > At least in KZN, GC has come out and stated
> what
> > the plans are (even though some may disagree
> with
> > them)
>
> 10 odd years ago we were closing racecourses, now
> they want to re-open or rebuild...:S
from a punting pov the fewer the tracks the better...
> Frodo Wrote:
>
>
> > Jack Dash Wrote:
> >
>
>
> >
> > > What is the point?
> > >
> > > Horse racing is like chess or stamp
> collection
> > or
> > > more like wine drinking. The people who want
> > it
> > > know who they are.
> > >
> > > People have interests in things that
> fascinate
> > > them, or satisfies some need. Racing is cool
> > > because it's strategy AND money, and exciting
> > once
> > > you get it. "We" shouldn't be that concerned
> > > about "the man in the street" because thats
> not
> > > something that will ever propel the sport
> > forward.
> > >
> > >
> > > "We" should be worried about treating the
> > existing
> > > fans the best we can. Stop losing the ones
> we
> > > have, because the entrance knowledge
> threshold
> > is
> > > very big. Racing can be very difficult for
> > > someone who has had no exposure from family
> or
> > > close friends or colleagues.
> > >
> > > There is really only one "we", the players
> and
> > the
> > > providers collectively are Horseracing. Best
> > the
> > > one group start treating the other better.
> > They
> > > think they are, but they aren't.
> >
> >
> > I agree 100% - imo start with transparency.
> >
> > In Gauteng 'rumours' abound that the Vaal
> > racecourse has been sold (signed, sealed and
> > delivered) and that a piece of ground near
> > Lanseria has been 'identified' to develop a new
> > 'racing village'; another 'rumour' doing the
> > rounds is that as the Vaal will be closed down,
> > Bloemfontein will be re-opened and the
> Kimberley
> > guys will be re-located to Bloem.
> >
> > Now is it too much to ask for the authorities
> to
> > come out and either deny these 'rumours' or
> > confirm them and make 'us' aware of what is
> being
> > planned for the future?
> >
> > At least in KZN, GC has come out and stated
> what
> > the plans are (even though some may disagree
> with
> > them)
>
> 10 odd years ago we were closing racecourses, now
> they want to re-open or rebuild...:S
from a punting pov the fewer the tracks the better...
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Re: Re: Any ideas how to make racing more attractive to the man on the street?
12 years 4 weeks ago
hibernia Wrote:
> its not our job,we love racing and try our best by
> supplying the sport with the tools,horses and cash
> from the pools.
> Let the operators sort racing out..
what a joke - how can you take anybody seriously when they still cannot have proper directional signage erected for the VAAL racecourse - Nice that ABC is good for suggestions and to promote Racing but just let someone make a constructive comment that you don't agree with and then we are loons.
> its not our job,we love racing and try our best by
> supplying the sport with the tools,horses and cash
> from the pools.
> Let the operators sort racing out..
what a joke - how can you take anybody seriously when they still cannot have proper directional signage erected for the VAAL racecourse - Nice that ABC is good for suggestions and to promote Racing but just let someone make a constructive comment that you don't agree with and then we are loons.
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Re: Re: Any ideas how to make racing more attractive to the man on the street?
12 years 4 weeks ago
Party Line Wrote:
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> R10 p/day x 365 days x 40 years = R 146 000
>
> which makes it R 854 000 less than the man who
> puts in 1 million and R 1 854 000 less than the
> man who puts in 2 million.
>
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Don Wrote:
> yes PL, BUT there are many more that put in the
> R10per day than there are that put in R1mill.
> Economies of scale....
So who gets the better treatment at the race tracks
the punters R10 means nothing to them BUT WITH OUT IT THEY ARE .........(td)
oh yes and what about the man who puts R20
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> R10 p/day x 365 days x 40 years = R 146 000
>
> which makes it R 854 000 less than the man who
> puts in 1 million and R 1 854 000 less than the
> man who puts in 2 million.
>
>
Don Wrote:
> yes PL, BUT there are many more that put in the
> R10per day than there are that put in R1mill.
> Economies of scale....
So who gets the better treatment at the race tracks
the punters R10 means nothing to them BUT WITH OUT IT THEY ARE .........(td)
oh yes and what about the man who puts R20
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Re: Re: Any ideas how to make racing more attractive to the man on the street?
12 years 4 weeks ago
The biggest thing that pisses me off about racing and I am sure others as well are the After race Merchants or those who say I heard a whisper or that horse cant be beat because so and so told me and then after the race when you hear people say "i knew that would win" yet they did not back it and also the cursing that goes on. Its a gamble. You put your money down you take your chances. Take it on the chin like a man instead of making excuses for your inability to pick the right horse and dont blame anybody else except yourself.
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