whats the best job in racing?

Flash Harry Wrote:

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> can some body explain what racing sa do besides
> run a competition every year? no improve in ahs no
> improve in restriction of SA horses this is the
> waste of time and money

No improvement? They have made huge efforts and giant strides in this field.

Article in italics below explains.

In summary the OIE give recommended guidelines for disease control. However countries are not obliged to follow them butt the guidelines do put pressure on them. The guidelines that were recommended at the last OIE General Assembly will only be able to be activated in May this year because the previous guidelines said that travel restrictions and protocols established after an outbreak of AHS in the AHS Free Zone could only be lifted after a 2 year period. The new guidleines have not only recommended that this cooling off period be changed to 80 days but also the quarantine times have been greatly reduced. The SA racing fraternity awaits May with anticipation to see whether racing countries will embrace the guidelines and change their protocols. The current protocols are extremely unfair as the risk of passing AHS from here to another country are about zero whereas countries like Australia have horse diseases that can kill humans and yet their restrictions are not nearly as harsh as ours. It is suspected by some that the unfair protocols against SA are due to our trade threat and not for the disease reasons stated.

SA is set to make a breakthrough in the restrictions placed on the export of horses thanks to the tireless efforts of the South African Veterinary Services and the team that supported them, in particular Professor Alan Guthrie whose expertise in African Horse Sickness (AHS) and international regulations helped shape the scientific principles, and Dr Beverley Zietsman, Veterinary Liaison Officer for Racing South Africa.The Word Organisation for Animal Health (OIE) made changes to the AHS code chapter at their 80th annual General Assembly in Paris on May 23.The new guidelines will greatly improve the way in which countries infected with AHS are able to export their horses, something that South Africa has been negotiating for a number of years now. The OIE was set up to facilitate safe trade between countries and it is recognised by the World Trade Organisation (WTO) as the body that settles disputes. The AHS Code was not drafted specifically for South Africa, it is an international document that allows countries infected with AHS to resume trading in a reasonable period of time by putting the correct scientific methods in place. South Africa’s control measures for AHS are recognised worldwide as they have been present since 1997 when the EU first ratified the horse export protocol. The South African Horse Industry, the Department of Agriculture, Fisheries and Forestry (DAFF) and the Equine Research Centre (Faculty of Veterinary Science, University of Pretoria) worked very hard to contribute to the drafting of this chapter.

Furthermore, Dr Botlhe Modisane, a veterinarian in DAFF, was elected into the Council of the OIE for a period of three years. The South African Veterinary Services are South Africa’s official representatives at the OIE. Racing South Africa has coordinated the funding of the organisations which have supported the work of Veterinary Services including the Equine Research Centre and the Import Export Working Group. The OIE reviews all diseases periodically and it was decided some time ago that the AHS code chapter should be reviewed.
The process starts with the formation by the OIE of an Ad Hoc working group of experts from around the world. The working group debate the scientific principles surrounding the disease and present a recommendation to the OIE’s Scientific Commission, who either reject it or accept it.

The revisions were adopted on 23 May. Material changes include:
1) Countries can apply to the OIE for official recognition of their AHS disease status. The newly adopted code outlines procedures that need to be followed to complete and submit a dossier with an application for official recognition of AHS disease status. The dossier needs to be submitted for consideration ahead of an ad hoc working group meeting in January 2013.
If an application is successful, it will form the cornerstone of protocol negotiations between countries as systems of control and monitoring for AHS will have been reviewed and accepted by the OIE. This will greatly expedite protocol development. (2) The opportunity for countries to apply to the OIE for recognition of a containment zone within a previously AHS free country or zone in the event of a limited controlled outbreak of AHS in the AHS controlled area.
Once the OIE recognises a containment zone, the status of the remainder of the country or zone can be regained 80 days after the last case of AHS. This will greatly expedite the resumption of exports following an outbreak of AHS in the AHS controlled area. (3) A substantially shortened pre export quarantine period in combination with agent identification testing when exporting from an infected country or zone. The reduction of pre-export quarantine from a minimum of 40 days continuous quarantine to a minimum of 14 days vector protected quarantine with agent identification testing when exporting from an infected country or zone, introduces a practical solution for exporting from an infected country. SA will be requesting various trading partners to consider how these OIE Code changes can be impleÿ¿Nœed to expedite the export of horses from SA.

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> > can some body explain what racing sa do besides
> > run a competition every year? no improve in ahs
> no
> > improve in restriction of SA horses this is the
> > waste of time and money
>
> No improvement? They have made huge efforts and
> giant strides in this field.
>
> Article in italics below explains.
>
> In summary the OIE give recommended guidelines for
> disease control. However countries are not obliged
> to follow them but it the guidelines do put
> pressure on them. The guidelines that were
> recommended at the last OIE General Assembly will
> only be able to be activated in May this year
> because the previous protocols said that travel
> restrictions and protocols established after an
> outbreak of AHS in the AHS Free Zone could only be
> lifted after a 2 year period. The new guidleines
> have not only recommended that this cooling off
> period be changed to 80 days but also the
> quarantine times have been greatly reduced. The SA
> racing fraternity awaits May with anticipation to
> see whether racing countries will embrace the
> guidelines and change their protocols. The current
> protocols are extremely unfair as the risk of
> passing AHS from here are about zero whereas
> countries like Australia have horse diseases that
> can kill humans and yet they have not even close
> to our restrictions. It is suspected by some that
> the protocols against SA are due to our trade
> threat and not for the disease reasons stated.
>
>
> SA is set to make a breakthrough in the
> restrictions placed on the export of horses thanks
> to the tireless efforts of the South African
> Veterinary Services and the team that supported
> them, in particular Professor Alan Guthrie whose
> expertise in African Horse Sickness (AHS) and
> international regulations helped shape the
> scientific principles, and Dr Beverley Zietsman,
> Veterinary Liaison Officer for Racing South
> Africa.The Word Organisation for Animal Health
> (OIE) made changes to the AHS code chapter at
> their 80th annual General Assembly in Paris on May
> 23.The new guidelines will greatly improve the way
> in which countries infected with AHS are able to
> export their horses, something that South Africa
> has been negotiating for a number of years now.
> The OIE was set up to facilitate safe trade
> between countries and it is recognised by the
> World Trade Organisation (WTO) as the body that
> settles disputes. The AHS Code was not drafted
> specifically for South Africa, it is an
> international document that allows countries
> infected with AHS to resume trading in a
> reasonable period of time by putting the correct
> scientific methods in place. South Africa’s
> control measures for AHS are recognised worldwide
> as they have been present since 1997 when the EU
> first ratified the horse export protocol. The
> South African Horse Industry, the Department of
> Agriculture, Fisheries and Forestry (DAFF) and the
> Equine Research Centre (Faculty of Veterinary
> Science, University of Pretoria) worked very hard
> to contribute to the drafting of this chapter.
>
> Furthermore, Dr Botlhe Modisane, a veterinarian in
> DAFF, was elected into the Council of the OIE for
> a period of three years. The South African
> Veterinary Services are South Africa’s official
> representatives at the OIE. Racing South Africa
> has coordinated the funding of the organisations
> which have supported the work of Veterinary
> Services including the Equine Research Centre and
> the Import Export Working Group. The OIE reviews
> all diseases periodically and it was decided some
> time ago that the AHS code chapter should be
> reviewed.
> The process starts with the formation by the OIE
> of an Ad Hoc working group of experts from around
> the world. The working group debate the scientific
> principles surrounding the disease and present a
> recommendation to the OIE’s Scientific
> Commission, who either reject it or accept it.
>
> The revisions were adopted on 23 May. Material
> changes include:
> 1) Countries can apply to the OIE for official
> recognition of their AHS disease status. The newly
> adopted code outlines procedures that need to be
> followed to complete and submit a dossier with an
> application for official recognition of AHS
> disease status. The dossier needs to be submitted
> for consideration ahead of an ad hoc working group
> meeting in January 2013.
> If an application is successful, it will form the
> cornerstone of protocol negotiations between
> countries as systems of control and monitoring for
> AHS will have been reviewed and accepted by the
> OIE. This will greatly expedite protocol
> development. (2) The opportunity for countries to
> apply to the OIE for recognition of a containment
> zone within a previously AHS free country or zone
> in the event of a limited controlled outbreak of
> AHS in the AHS controlled area.
> Once the OIE recognises a containment zone, the
> status of the remainder of the country or zone can
> be regained 80 days after the last case of AHS.
> This will greatly expedite the resumption of
> exports following an outbreak of AHS in the AHS
> controlled area. (3) A substantially shortened pre
> export quarantine period in combination with agent
> identification testing when exporting from an
> infected country or zone. The reduction of
> pre-export quarantine from a minimum of 40 days
> continuous quarantine to a minimum of 14 days
> vector protected quarantine with agent
> identification testing when exporting from an
> infected country or zone, introduces a practical
> solution for exporting from an infected country.
> SA will be requesting various trading partners to
> consider how these OIE Code changes can be
> impleÿ¿Nœed to expedite the export of horses
> from SA.


Go easy Tipster, you trying to educate armchair critics, punters, who know absolutely zero. GOODLUCK.

boys how long does it take for igugu to get to dubai?

how long it take 10 years ago?

how long it take next year?

giant strides? i would hate to see small steps.

what racing sa cost to fund over last 10 year and what it achieve?

rowdy you get the surprise when you now how much i do now.

Flash Harry Wrote:

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> boys how long does it take for igugu to get to
> dubai?
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> how long it take 10 years ago?
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> how long it take next year?
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> giant strides? i would hate to see small steps.
>
> what racing sa cost to fund over last 10 year and
> what it achieve?

You're right, Rowdy.

Tipster Wrote:

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> > boys how long does it take for igugu to get to
> > dubai?
> >
> > how long it take 10 years ago?
> >
> > how long it take next year?
> >
> > giant strides? i would hate to see small steps.
> >
> > what racing sa cost to fund over last 10 year
> and
> > what it achieve?
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> You right, Rowdy.


Flash ,you dealing with that segment of the racing industry that believe that effort is enough.............non-achievement is just bad luck !!!
100% for effort but FA for skill .-

Flash i know alot like you.
They are not worth the money spent on.
The cost they charge to get horses in and out is crazy.
The quarentine charges are crazy.
But Mr Racing SA bringing a handfull of owners into SA
A very high cost per owner.
Ask hhow much they receive each year from the imported and exported horses,

its a disgrace

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> > > how long it take 10 years ago?
> > >
> > > how long it take next year?
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> > > giant strides? i would hate to see small
> steps.
> > >
> > > what racing sa cost to fund over last 10 year
> > and
> > > what it achieve?
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> > You right, Rowdy.
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> Flash ,you dealing with that segment of the racing
> industry that believe that effort is
> enough.............non-achievement is just bad
> luck !!!
> 100% for effort but FA for skill .-

Genius, have you ever tried to get legislation changed? The OIE General Assembly sits once a year and that's SA's only chance to get guidelines changed. Apart from lobbying and getting past red tape, the guideline changes were influenced by a new diagnostic test invented by the Equine Reasech Centre that returns a yes or no answer for AHS within two hours instead of the previous three weeks and this was funded by Racing South Africa and the THoroughbred Racing Trust. But I suppose that's not skill. They say a little knowledge is dangerous and you are proof. You didn't even appear to be aware that racecourse covers round the world are used for frost and not rain (LOL). You're the worst example of what Rowdy states, always got the answers but never backed up by evidence.

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> > > > boys how long does it take for igugu to get
> > to
> > > > dubai?
> > > >
> > > > how long it take 10 years ago?
> > > >
> > > > how long it take next year?
> > > >
> > > > giant strides? i would hate to see small
> > steps.
> > > >
> > > > what racing sa cost to fund over last 10
> year
> > > and
> > > > what it achieve?
> > >
> > > You right, Rowdy.
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> > Flash ,you dealing with that segment of the
> racing
> > industry that believe that effort is
> > enough.............non-achievement is just bad
> > luck !!!
> > 100% for effort but FA for skill .-
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> Genius, have you ever tried to get legislation
> changed? The OIE General Assembly sits once a year
> and that's SA's only chance to get guidelines
> changed. Apart from lobbying and getting past red
> tape, the guideline changes were influenced by a
> new diagnostic test invented by the Equine Reasech
> Centre for AHS that returns a yes or no answer for
> AHS within two hours instead of the previous three
> weeks and this was funded by Racing South Africa
> and the THoroughbred Racing Trust. But I suppose
> that's not skill. They say a little knowledge is
> dangerous and you are proof. You didn't even
> appear to be aware that racecourse covers round
> the world are used for frost and not rain (LOL).
> You're the worst example of what Rowdy states,
> always got the answers but never backed up by
> evidence.
A lot of successful people in the game believe that more could have been done a lot earlier.........they have said so on tellytrack
Where were you when I asked about the viability of saving local meetings with covers............lol
I'd like to play you mastermind for a living..........-D
(BTW I wasn't talking about the efforts of Racing SA.............just the attitude of segments of GC.)