ZUMA.

I sort of agree hoender but at least the country prospered back then....now it isn't quite as much so I guess there are glaring differences.

chicken 'n chips Wrote:

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> > CNC NO it was not right what the National Party
> > did in this country, but does 2 wrongs make a
> > right?
>
>
> Of course not. But people tend to forget the past.
> This ANC Government are like most Governments
> around the world. They are only in it to line
> their own pockets and dont care a hoot about their
> own people but its no good having a go at them
> because when we had the power we abused it just
> like they are.

Yes lets just shut up and watch Zuma become the next Robert Mugabe, case that's whats happening in SA... Anyway w much good sport on today to carry on about that for now.

Johannesburg - There are too many critics complaining about Bafana Bafana who have never played professional soccer, President Jacob Zuma said on Tuesday.

"There are too many critics. I was telling the team that others who are critics who have never touched the football," Zuma said.
"They don't know how it feels to be inside here."

Zuma was speaking after a private meeting with the team in Orlando Stadium, Soweto, ahead of an Africa Cup of Nations (AFCON) tournament.

Flanked by Sports Minister Fikile Mbalula, Zuma said the players had to relax before their matches.

"We have come to tell the national team that they must relax. They must not be tense and they must not listen to all these critics," he said. "They must just play what they know."

He said the whole of South Africa was behind the team.

Zuma said he had asked to touch the AFCON trophy.

"I just wanted to touch it. Touching it means we should be there at the final and we should take it."

The president said South Africa did well in preparing for the tournament, considering it was meant to be held in Libya, and did not have a long time to plan for it.

He said he was satisfied that the team was ready for the tournament.

"If you know soccer, you have got to see whether all departments are working in the field," Zuma said.

"This is so that you have goals that are played (scored) scientifically."

When Zuma took to the field to pose with the team, the Bafana Bafana players greeted him with a rendition of his trademark song, "Awulethu Umshini Wami" [bring me my machine-gun].

He was also presented with a personalised team jersey.


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This zuma is pathetic... (td) what a total waste of space!!!

gregbucks Wrote:

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> Johannesburg - There are too many critics
> complaining about Bafana Bafana who have never
> played professional soccer, President Jacob Zuma
> said on Tuesday.
>
> "There are too many critics. I was telling the
> team that others who are critics who have never
> touched the football," Zuma said.
> "They don't know how it feels to be inside here."
>
> Zuma was speaking after a private meeting with the
> team in Orlando Stadium, Soweto, ahead of an
> Africa Cup of Nations (AFCON) tournament.
>
> Flanked by Sports Minister Fikile Mbalula, Zuma
> said the players had to relax before their
> matches.
>
> "We have come to tell the national team that they
> must relax. They must not be tense and they must
> not listen to all these critics," he said. "They
> must just play what they know."
>
> He said the whole of South Africa was behind the
> team.
>
> Zuma said he had asked to touch the AFCON trophy.
>
> "I just wanted to touch it. Touching it means we
> should be there at the final and we should take
> it."
>
> The president said South Africa did well in
> preparing for the tournament, considering it was
> meant to be held in Libya, and did not have a long
> time to plan for it.
>
> He said he was satisfied that the team was ready
> for the tournament.
>
> "If you know soccer, you have got to see whether
> all departments are working in the field," Zuma
> said.
>
> "This is so that you have goals that are played
> (scored) scientifically."
>
> When Zuma took to the field to pose with the team,
> the Bafana Bafana players greeted him with a
> rendition of his trademark song, "Awulethu Umshini
> Wami" .
>
> He was also presented with a personalised team
> jersey.
>
>
> ..................................................
> ......
>
> This zuma is pathetic... (td) what a total waste
> of space!!!


Maybe he was checking what it was made of,I bet he melts down a lot of metal.

Maybe he wanted to swipe it and display it as an ornament at his Nkandla ''compound'....()

BLAMING THE PAST AS USUAL ZUMA...(td)


Cape Town - Violence in society originates from the apartheid system, President Jacob Zuma said on Friday.

"I don't think as a nation we just became violent overnight. Violence is a direct consequence of apartheid. Apartheid was a very violent system. So violent that even if you peacefully demonstrated, they would shoot at you and kill you," Zuma told a The New Age breakfast.

"That called the reaction from those who were oppressed to become very violent in fighting apartheid."

Zuma said the African National Congress was a non-violent organisation. However, due to persistent violence from the apartheid government, the party had to take up arms.

"Those who are demonstrating for example, because they are from that kind of situation that if you protest you are going to be shot at, so they are already in a sense full of readiness to do violence," Zuma said.

"If we have that background it means it is not a matter that we are going to deal with overnight. We are going to take time."

However, Zuma condemned violent protests. He urged citizens to respect other people's rights while exercising their right to strike.

So violence and rape etc is the fault of apartheid .when is the government going to man up and take responsibility??guess not in the near future as apartheid was also blamed for the lack of school books been delivered last year.

pathetic..........and can't say i am surprised

The scary thing is the masses will still vote for this clown in 2014...

Look at the newspapers this morning.....da speech to da nation on page 2, but he did say 2 great things.....u cannot control da flu, and happy valentine's day. Hond se doyley, this guy is funny <

C&C ... re your list of things that were wrong during Apartheid ... agreed, but! These things can be changed by changing the laws. The things that really scare me are the things that the law can't change. Like violence to sort out quarrels, like greed as a way of life, like ignorance of what democracy is really about, even (especially) among the political makers of laws, and like contempt for the law (same "especially" applies).

And what also scares me is the attack on free open communication that is gathering force in government. I grew up in apartheid and I know how oppression works. I've felt the pressure, and the fear of speaking. The first thing in any oppressive state does is to get hold of the means of communication. One way of doing it is to intimidate people into shutting up ... probably the only way of getting total control of what people say and hear in today's Internet era. This is now happening ... witness this thread for just one example.

I'm trying to do my little bit by educating a few, especially in critical reading skills. Don't just believe whatever you hear or read, check up! That's what I tell them, over and over. I don't know if it will make a difference, but there you are.

The old pre-1994 ANC swore to make this country ungovernable, and, bai goom, they've succeeded beyond their wildest nightmares. Now they want to switch them back and are finding out Surprise! Surprise! that people can't just be switched on and off like light bulbs.