Vaal Thursday

gregbucks Wrote:

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> Ja, sorry boet he not gonna get rewarded for
> consistency... Are you guys planning on dropping
> him out and see if he will run on?


I am hoping so he is very one paced in his race a few runs ago if they went slowly we were going to set the pace but as luck would have it the went a good clip and was caught in no man's land. He is difficult as he needs absolutely everything to go his way. If he could run in the first half of the field I would be happy. You never know how the come back after a short break so we are hopeful more than anything.

And the jockey knows him ....last time he place was with Pheiffer...

I will take some hopeful swingers for a laugh....

Break a leg, shrek - unfortunately does not look like the Vaal is his favorite track :S

Thanks guys, no he has never showed at the Vaal but you have to run in these races when they come along and with his MR we are just happy to have made the field.

And its not often you get stayers races these days....:X

Ok... help please... can someone tell me why in R6 Senator is priced up as 10/3 fav and Reign Victorious is 8/1. On the form line through Tiger Attack, RV is 1kg better off and was beaten 1.75 lengths less. Is this price for Senator solely based on its consistent placings and the bookies don't want to be paying place money? Even so, it strikes me as "odd"... anyone know factors that can explain the 5 point difference?
Also, anyone know how impressive Rambo was... a big runner? I'm not a big fan of Seb Bolt so currently against it but any opinions would be welcome.

Frodo Wrote:

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Americano should now be back to best -
> but that is a strongish looking field

My best value bet today (tu) ... on the nose and doubles onto Martin Kaymer for the golf and Link Man on Saturday.

Englander Wrote:

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> Ok... help please... can someone tell me why in R6
> Senator is priced up as 10/3 fav and Reign
> Victorious is 8/1. On the form line through Tiger
> Attack, RV is 1kg better off and was beaten 1.75
> lengths less. Is this price for Senator solely
> based on its consistent placings and the bookies
> don't want to be paying place money? Even so, it
> strikes me as "odd"... anyone know factors that
> can explain the 5 point difference?
> Also, anyone know how impressive Rambo was... a
> big runner? I'm not a big fan of Seb Bolt so
> currently against it but any opinions would be
> welcome.

Englander what formline are you looking at, cause i can't see when these 2 horses met before?

gregbucks Wrote:

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> Englander Wrote:
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> > Ok... help please... can someone tell me why in
> R6
> > Senator is priced up as 10/3 fav and Reign
> > Victorious is 8/1. On the form line through
> Tiger
> > Attack, RV is 1kg better off and was beaten
> 1.75
> > lengths less. Is this price for Senator solely
> > based on its consistent placings and the
> bookies
> > don't want to be paying place money? Even so,
> it
> > strikes me as "odd"... anyone know factors that
> > can explain the 5 point difference?
> > Also, anyone know how impressive Rambo was... a
> > big runner? I'm not a big fan of Seb Bolt so
> > currently against it but any opinions would be
> > welcome.
>
> Englander what formline are you looking at, cause
> i can't see when these 2 horses met before?

9/7/2011 over 1450 @ Turfontein. Even weight and Senator beat RV by about .7 L

GB... they both ran against Tiger Attack... different dates but same c and d. From Winning Form...

Senator...
12.11.10 V 357 G MR76 s 1400 Khumalo S 54.0 (64) CA 6-13 3 3.75 Tiger Attack 60.0

RV...
2.09.11 V 121 G MR73 s 1400 Lembethe D 52.0 (62) A 10-14 3 2.00 Tiger Attack 60.0

Okay I see thanks.... Look at there times?

My old man also uses similar horses from different races to compare form. On a line through Tiger Attach, Reign Victorious should beat Senator but a line through Chop Suey would have the form is in favour of Senator. I will take some of the 12/1 (3/1 a place) on offer at Betting World on Chop Suey who regularly finishes on top of the two mentioned.