vaal sand Thursday -Emerald Cup

Frodo Wrote:

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> rob faux Wrote:
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> > If the NHA ever decide to enforce the "in and
> out"
> > rule,most of the time at least half the Spies
> > stable would be suspended
> ...................lol
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> The SPCA should be investigating imo - last
> Thurday at the Vaal over 2000, then Monday at
> Flamingo over 2200 (?) and then today :S

Make's you think, does it not?

if i was an owner i would love to earn 2 stake cheques in the space of two weeks !

Vaal....EMERALD CUP THURSDAY!!!!!
MBOWENI 18/10 Win(beaten 2nd fav and stablemate twice, better bred for sand also.....BIG BIG CHANCESCRATCHED WITH 9 OTHER HORSES....WHAT A F@CK UP!!!!
LAID BACK 3/1 Win(very very good formline,if it wasnt for the bad draw it would be my BEST BET...)2nd
POWER JET 5/1 Win (if you ignore last run he have this field stone cold very big chance ,full brother JET JAMBOREE very good sort and performed very well on sand)2nd LAST BEATEN 27 LENGHS
SON OF THE BURG 16/10 Place(same odds as the running atm favourite New york for a win,but on the weights have the beating of new york on 3/5 encounters.....wont be surprise if it wins)2ND LAST BEATEN 11 LENGHS
ABOVE THE MOON 7/1 Win (first run on sand, i have high regard for this horse,will be suited to the course and can go start to finish...dont leave out of anything,dropped 20 points in merit rating this year)LAST BEATEN 37 LENGHS
SAPPHIRE RING 1.26 Place (open race...)WON
ASTRO NEWS 14/1 Win ....(First run on sand...have beaten beacon flaire and right beauty easily ,Ran less than 2 lenghs behind IGUGU getting 5kg over 2000m, and 3 lenghs behind VARIETY CLUB at even weights BOTH HORSES OF THE YEAR.....If reproducing anything near that type of form he must cruise in ...if he runs to his best form he have them stone cold.....go watch the ave merit rating of the races he competed in and you will see my bizarre logic ....his merit rating came down 8 points (4kg) in the last 3 months ....big drop in class.....been backed from 25/1 to 14/1....2ND LAST BEATEN 19 LENGHS
INCOMODO 14/10 Place (highly rated by Tarry but race looks very open,Pylon got hammered by the handicapper....how good is he really)4TH BEATEN 19 LENGHS
Race 9 and 10 and 11 - as open as Hugh Hefner's relationships .....if i have to pick i go with ARABIAN STORM 0.44 Place2ND with striker up in the ninth and with MAJI MOTO 0.69 Place6TH BEATEN 10 LENGHS in the 10th and the nighmare last i will go with COUNTESS BACARDI 6/10 Place3RD


BY FAR THE KAKKEST DAY I HAD IN TIPPING AND SEEN IN RACING

How do you take these formlines today into future formlines....total chaos awaits on the vaal sand,what the hell happened with that course after the rain????????????????See if you can spot the madness and the bizarre bizarre outcomes....

Race 1
8 runners -3rd place horse in 8 horse field 12 lengths behind winner over 1000m?????????= 5/8 horses beaten between 12 to 19 lenghs
Race 2
12 runners-8 out of 12 horses beaten 10 to 40 lengths over 1200m???????????????????
Race 3
8 runners- 6 out of 8 beaten 9 to dist lengths over 1600m????????
Race 4
8 runners- 5 out of 8 beaten 7 to 29 lengths over 1600m???????In a Handicap race????????
Race 5
11 runners - 8 out of 11 runners beaten 11 to 37 lengths over 1450m???????In a Handicap race????????
Race 7
13 runners in the BIGGEST RACE on SAND in AFRICA......PREDICTED TO BE VERY OPEN...8 OUT OF 13 BEATEN 9 TO DIST LENGHS OVER 1450M????????????????In a Handicap race????????
Race 8
9 runners - 6 out of 9 beaten 19 lengths to 29 lengths over 1800m????????????????In a Handicap race????????
Race 9
8 runners- 5 out of 8 beaten 10 to 40 lengths over 1800m????????????????In a Handicap race????????
Race 10
13 runners- 11 out of 13 beaten 8 to 34 lengths over 1000m?????????In a Handicap race????????
Race 11
16 runners - 10 out of 16 beaten 10 to 27 lengths over 1000m??????????In a Handicap race????????

I accept like a man if i tipped shit and take it on the chin but i won't take it if it this outcome..... i am not stupid....clearly the vaal sand racecourse is a disgrace.....

Solotrama Wrote:

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> if i was an owner i would love to earn 2 stake
> cheques in the space of two weeks

I have seen hurdlers in England race as often year after year.

I hear you Ziets but to be honest that has always been my impression at both Vaal sand and Kimberley and to me there are huge consistency issues with how horses perform. I have always thought it takes a little bravery or stupidity to bet at these meetings, you simply have to hope they run to form. I have yet to hear a decent reason why it happens, everyone just seems to accept it does happen and nothing can be done to change it. All very strange. Maybe those who have runners regularly there or visit there occasionally are able to advise better? Deon Sampson seemed to think Pirates Bounty won the second simply because it was a very weak field... come on, that horse has been beaten by 10 lengths or more in 5 of its last 6 starts and by over 15 lengths in all three starts on the sand. And today it wins by about 5 I think, Erico V may have come into a little form but that is just a ridiculous change in form. I like to find a big priced winner but I wouldn't have bet your money on that one!!! well, maybe a rand or two if it was yours!

Englander Wrote:

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> I hear you Ziets but to be honest that has always
> been my impression at both Vaal sand and Kimberley
> and to me there are huge consistency issues with
> how horses perform. I have always thought it takes
> a little bravery or stupidity to bet at these
> meetings, you simply have to hope they run to
> form. I have yet to hear a decent reason why it
> happens, everyone just seems to accept it does
> happen and nothing can be done to change it. All
> very strange. Maybe those who have runners
> regularly there or visit there occasionally are
> able to advise better? Deon Sampson seemed to
> think Pirates Bounty won the second simply because


> it was a very weak field... come on, that horse
> has been beaten by 10 lengths or more in 5 of its
> last 6 starts and by over 15 lengths in all three
> starts on the sand. And today it wins by about 5 I
> think, Erico V may have come into a little form
> but that is just a ridiculous change in form. I
> like to find a big priced winner but I wouldn't
> have bet your money on that one!!! well, maybe a
> rand or two if it was yours!

How to tip on the vaal when it rained....easy .....dont bet,dont tip ,ignore as if its abandoned and go play farking golf with the old clan members....This is my all time low i seen in racing,and they dont say a word......wonder how the going to adjust the handicaps after today???????????????????

ziets racing is always strung out in sand races..this is why the races are handicapped using 3/4 margins instead of full margins on the grass