BYE BYE low grade Vaal Meetings !

Flash Harry talk to me this time next year. Natal been splitting races for ages. Not getting into an arguement about where to race now. Will let the racing here do the talking once we split.

I am with you Graig!

And if we raced for KZN stakes...... we could probably race 4 times a week, 10 races per meeting. Bottom line is we start this old "poor me" argument all over again. Rather this than facing facts, it seems.....

Now NAME these horses - come , NAME these horses and let's see who actually wants to back them or take shares in them. The point is that a MR68 results in a 16 point spread, down to bottom weight. Bottom weight is a MR52. The average placed maiden is rated around 65. How much lower than MR52 do you want to go ? What horses do you want catered for ? MR45 ?

Give us NAMES and EXAMPLES of the horses which are now not catered for....at the highest stakes in the country. I have never seen any Business flourish by rewarding mediocrity. And I dont see why those with more ability should be at a disadvantage. This is Racing, not a benevolent fund.

As for "good" horses, these were mentioned only in order to show both ends of the scale. In my book, a MR52 is not a "good" horse.

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craig perhaps in a year after selling clairwood you will match the highveld stakes. good for you, what you sell next year?

FH if the money from the sale of Clairwood was going to be used to prop up stakes I would have said wait for 2 weeks after the sale not a year. Am very confident in our future here. Just one of the decisions taken at the meeting Monday was that at least R200 million would be invested for at least 5 years and that cannot be touched.

i was watching bob mugabe on sky news last and thinking that he should be co opted onto gold circle natal board...

craig if clairwood sale is not being used to boost the stakes why do you wait a year when pe stakes are compared to yours? not all the owners are mrs o and dont need the money. if i compare the training fee vs stakes raced for you need to see the looney bin to race in natal

I wonder why so many trainers want to come and train here. they must all be looney. Been through this too often. We will see. We have to start slowly and the stakes will build up. Possibly earlier than a year but giving them time.

the difference between stakes and buying and keeping a horse in training is so wide that it is become very clear that even if stakes were upped 50 percent it would have very little effect on closing the gap....gold circle reduced stakes a while back maybe 2 years ago and havent increased since the reduction and if im correct they didnt increase stakes the year before the reduction so in effect we racing for the same stakes that we raced for abt 4 to 5 years ago BUT THE INTERESTING THING IS WHEN THEY DECLARE THAT THEY SHOWED A PROFIT THEY FORGET TO SAY IT WAS ACHIEVED MAINLY DUE TO THE MONEY SAVED IN REDUCING STAKES;)

A MAIDEN PLATE IN 2006 IN GOLD CIRCLE NATAL WAS 57000 RAND TOTAL STAKE IN 2012 IT IS TOTAL STAKE 55200...IM COMPARING APPLES TO APPLES HERE....bullshit baffles brains

a MAIDEN PLATE IN GAUTENG IN 2006 WAS 58K IN 2012 IT IS 75K ...IM COMPARING ORANGES TO ORANGES HERE.....